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Post by eye123 on Oct 20, 2021 14:52:44 GMT -5
With the third shot (booster) had some arm pain that evening(at injection site) with some muscle and joint soreness. That night had some chills also. Next day by mid-afternoon began to subside, and by evening everything was back to normal.
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Post by shoes on Oct 20, 2021 15:44:46 GMT -5
I know people may not want to hear this but since others are reporting their specific experiences, I will share what is going on with my wife. She is double- vaxed (Pfizer) had minimal symptoms after the shots (a little redness at the site). In fact she had less of a reaction than I did with my two Moderna shots.
However beginning about 2 weeks after her second shot, and continuing to the present she has had recurrent episodes of elevated heart rates, both during the day and at night. We both wear fitness watches which track heart rate and we both wear an oximeter ring on our finger at night. This measures both O2 level in the blood and heart rates and give you a warning if either is outside of a certain range. The two devices confirm the elevated heart rate spikes that occur maybe 1 out of 3 nights. The episodes that have occurred during the day are during periods when she is at rest, and she doesn't link them to being stressed. She also feels more fatigued, more frequently. She has had an ekg, which was normal but was told that unless you have an episode during the test, that it will not detect myocarditis. Both the heart arrhythmia and fatigue can be symptoms of Myocarditis. Of course other things can cause that as well
Myocarditis is a side effect from the COVID vaccines. It is supposedly rare, maybe 1 in 50,000 and primarily in young adults. It can also be a side effect of COVID itself. Sweden has halted the administration of the Moderna vaccine because of myocarditis concerns (again, my wife had the Pfizer). She has been tested for COVID multiple times, all negative. She has no history of these conditions prior to taking the vaccine, and no COVID risk factors other than age. The next step is a heart X-ray and a heart MRI. Unfortunately we are looking at lengthy delays to get these tests. We are trying to get them expedited.
Again, I don't make suggestions or advise anyone else on their individual health decisions and my wife is a sample of one (a very important one to me), just as everyone else above is sharing their individual experiences. She is not going to get a third shot at least until we get this figured out, and I am not going to either.
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Post by eye123 on Oct 20, 2021 16:06:12 GMT -5
Shoes, thanks for sharing. Important that all effects are noted. I've read that severe side effects are rare. (but when it happens to you it's one for one so very concerning) Probably very wise to get diagnosis before any further shots. Might suggest (a little surprised your doctor didn't) she wear a holter monitor(will detect any adverse heart activity). Hope she feels better.
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Post by spiderjohn on Oct 20, 2021 17:36:33 GMT -5
Supposedly the highest level of immunity comes with previous exposure plus being double vaxxed. Too many double vaxxed elders are getting seriously ill from COVID imo. Obviously there is no data yet on the effectiveness of a 3rd shot. Interesting....
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Post by eye123 on Oct 20, 2021 18:29:35 GMT -5
This may be of interest...... www.theguardian.com/society/2021/oct/20/deaths-among-the-double-vaccinated-what-is-behind-the-australian-statisticsWith emphasis on this paragraph: "Between 16 June and 18 October there were 61 deaths among fully vaccinated people in New South Wales, from a total of 479 Covid deaths. Data provided to Guardian Australia by NSW Health shows of the deaths in the fully vaccinated, all were aged 50 or above. Of those who died, five were in their 50s, one in their 60s, 17 in their 70s, 22 in their 80s and 16 in their 90s." Of the 61 out of 479 who passed over 50, 55 were older then 70, with 39 of those over 80. Playing the odds, I'd take the bet on the shots every time. Also a paragraph of interest: In Victoria, 174 Covid-19 deaths occurred between 30 August and 19 October 2021. Of these, 129 were not vaccinated, 25 were partially vaccinated, and 20 were fully vaccinated with two doses. Of the 20 deaths that were fully vaccinated, one was aged in their 50s, while the remaining 19 were all aged 70 years and over.
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Post by shoes on Oct 20, 2021 18:47:57 GMT -5
Spider, I forgot to include above that she was on a holter monitor for 2 days, which did not show anything, hence the next steps I mentioned. It is concerning, We just want to get this figured out. I lost my sister 5 years ago (age 66) very suddenly after having been in the ER for shortness of breath and released 5 days before she died and having passed many tests. I read the autopsy report many times and had a friend who is a medical professional read it as well and it doesn't really explain what happened other than to cite some possibly contributing factors.
My next door neighbor went to the ER 10 days after his second vaccination with a blood clot (no prior history of same). I called the ambulance for him.They didn't explain to him what happened either. He is fine now, thankfully. I do have some concern that not all possible side effects from the vaccines are being fully investigated and documented, so I do not have a ton of faith in all of the numbers that we see. There seems to me to be an enormous pressure to push the vaccines on the population, and a resistance to consider what may be legitimate concerns.
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Post by eye123 on Oct 20, 2021 19:56:39 GMT -5
Shoes, as we get older the body wears out. All sorts of problems add to the possibility that life will end. Our job is to mitigate the possibilities. Health checks, proper diet exercise, reducing stress, listening to advice from professionals on what course best suits us(the individual), and following it.(Resulting from previous health risks and current tests) We all make decisions on the best facts we have. Ask your doctor what’s best for you and your wife. You can’t go wrong there. I’m sure you mentioned the shots and timing of your wife’s concerns. (and he gave you advice) Either way, if the shots were a factor, or not, getting the tests done to see how serious( hopefully just something easily dealt with) or not is prudent. We can’t get “all consumed” about covid and let slip the underlying health factors that should we get covid puts us at greater risk. Hope the tests return good results.
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Post by tex on Oct 23, 2021 9:04:27 GMT -5
Got my booster of Moderna yesterday. My second shot came back in January. Wondering if there is any information on what effect going 9 months between doses instead of the recommended 6 has? I can’t say I have read anything on that - has anyone else? I was given the option of a half dose of full dose. I opted for the half dose thinking I should put the minimum required for protection and maybe minimize the possibility of adverse effects? I kinda feel like with Moderna I was already pretty well Protected but also didn’t want to go into the winter without as much protection as I could have. Boy nothing is ever cut and dry is it?
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Post by eye123 on Oct 23, 2021 9:30:29 GMT -5
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Post by 1hooper on Oct 23, 2021 9:43:50 GMT -5
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Post by tc on Oct 23, 2021 10:11:16 GMT -5
Just saw this for Ontario...from Ministry of Health: The Ontario recommended interval between the last dose of the initial primary series and the third dose is at least two months (8 weeks). As per NACI, the minimum interval should be 28 days; however, an interval longer than the minimum 28 days between doses is likely to result in a better immune response. Exact timing should be decided with the treating provider in order to optimize the immune response from the vaccine series and minimize delays in management of their underlying condition. Additionally, the interval should consider risk factors for exposure (including local epidemiology and circulation of variants of concern) and risk of severe disease from COVID-19 infection. Some immunocompromised individuals may still be susceptible after the 1 or 2-dose primary series, so their period of susceptibility until receipt of the additional dose will also increase if the interval between doses is increased. full document available here: health.gov.on.ca/en/pro/programs/publichealth/coronavirus/docs/vaccine/COVID-19_vaccine_third_dose_recommendations.pdf
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Post by 1hooper on Dec 14, 2021 13:11:23 GMT -5
Looking for some good news today? Sounds hopeful. www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/14/1064030639/pfizer-covid-19-pill-paxlovid-dataPfizer released additional data about its pill to treat COVID-19 that shows it was effective in preventing hospitalization and death when taken by people with mild to moderate illness within a few days of first symptoms. The medicine, called Paxlovid, is taken twice a day for five days in combination with a second medicine called ritonavir, a generic antiviral. The results from a study involving more than 2,200 people at high risk for developing serious COVID-19 found the drug reduced the risk of hospitalization or death by 89%, compared with a placebo, when taken within three days of first symptoms of illness. When taken within five days, the drug reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by 88%.
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Post by PonyGirlJCM on Dec 15, 2021 4:15:05 GMT -5
Looking for some good news today? Sounds hopeful. www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/14/1064030639/pfizer-covid-19-pill-paxlovid-dataPfizer released additional data about its pill to treat COVID-19 that shows it was effective in preventing hospitalization and death when taken by people with mild to moderate illness within a few days of first symptoms. The medicine, called Paxlovid, is taken twice a day for five days in combination with a second medicine called ritonavir, a generic antiviral. The results from a study involving more than 2,200 people at high risk for developing serious COVID-19 found the drug reduced the risk of hospitalization or death by 89%, compared with a placebo, when taken within three days of first symptoms of illness. When taken within five days, the drug reduced the risk of hospitalization and death by 88%. I hope something gives soon as it has been nearly two years of trying to stay safe….dealing with the public who majority wise couldn’t care less about “ playing by the rules” … I still wear a mask at work most of the time …hopefully it will protect me some from them…..
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Post by Badactor on Dec 17, 2021 10:49:45 GMT -5
My kid got the covid... sharing an office with another teacher in Boise, her office mate got sick. Soon after, Stephanie couldn't taste or smell anything. Body aches real bad with headache and temperature. Two Moderna vaccines and a booster... probably saved her life. Worse than the worst flu she ever had, she said.
The other teacher was "Doing her own research." Unvaccinated... she's in the hospital.
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Post by arsignman on Dec 17, 2021 12:24:20 GMT -5
My granddaughters husband caught and tested positive for covid and had to miss three weeks of work along with his wife. She tested negative but wasn't allowed to return to work until he tested negative. They returned to work and he didn't have any problems. They both received their regular pay for 3 one half weeks.
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Post by Badactor on Dec 22, 2021 12:42:50 GMT -5
I answered a private message this morning:
"Would be sorry to see you go... It was a rant, indeed... I was so upset having just lost two friends to covid. I certainly did not mean to attack you or anyone... I was simply mad at the universe. I do not wish to see anyone die, whether I believe in their politics or not. Science is not politics. It is the unvaccinated who are dying at a much higher rate and they are suffering because they have been told this is a political issue. Ridiculous. I wish you and those you love health and happiness. I hope you stay on the Forum. I enjoy reading your posts."
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Post by Badactor on Dec 22, 2021 12:53:33 GMT -5
'Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?'
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Post by 1hooper on Dec 22, 2021 13:38:58 GMT -5
Dec. 22, 2021, 12:25 PM EST / Updated Dec. 22, 2021, 12:58 PM EST By Berkeley Lovelace Jr.
The Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday authorized the first Covid-19 antiviral pill in the United States to protect against severe disease.
The oral drug, called Paxlovid, from Pfizer will be prescribed for use in adults and children ages 12 and up with mild to moderate Covid who are at risk for severe disease or hospitalization, the FDA said in a statement.
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Post by cherokeescot on Dec 22, 2021 19:06:23 GMT -5
For me this is a very personal decision. I am triple vaccinated but if some people do not want to be vaccinated I respect their choice . If you are fully vaccinated and are worried about going to events that will be attended by unvaccinated folks then just don’t go . As a handicapper I like to study the pps . While looking at the pps for Covid it seems that although you can still get infected if vaccinated the chances of dying or being hospitalized are way less so I’m content to go with that and if I need a fourth or fifth booster I will gladly take it. However for those who decide to remain unvaccinated then let’s not totally exclude them from society. We need them
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Post by eye123 on Dec 22, 2021 19:42:11 GMT -5
It's everyone's personal decision. Everyone has the facts by now, and if someone chooses to not get any of the existing vaccines(free and provided at any pharmacy near by(easy access) ) and put themselves and friends and family at risk..well so be it. Me personally, I weigh the facts. Have gotten both shots along with the booster.(protects me against any serious outcome) ...and I no longer wear a mask, anywhere, except doctor visits(even then I take it off when not in the waiting room). 60% of Americans have done their part....the other 40%, I wish luck.They will need it.
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Post by 1hooper on Dec 23, 2021 16:40:38 GMT -5
Spoke to a Saratoga Springs Hospital ICU nurse yesterday. 48 of 48 ICU patients unvaccinated this week. Stay safe and healthy.
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Post by dblakers on Dec 24, 2021 6:05:09 GMT -5
This is a crazy world we are living in. If a person wrote a book about all of this 30years ago, they would have been laughed at. You just cannot write this stuff. Reading this post you can tell how people vote. Lot's of liberals on here. It's ok. I use to be a democrat myself before I became more informed and less naïve. The democratic party is destroying America and people seem to blind to see it. The mainstream media is straight left and won't tell the truth about anything. Take the Vaccine, which is not a Vaccine. True vaccines are for diseases, not viruses. The " covid vaccine" does not stop people from getting it or transmitting it. Look at the NFL and NBA how many players who are fully vaccinated still get covid. We can blame it on the unvaxxed, but there have been more deaths from Covid since NO POLITICS took office than when NO POLITICS was in office. The liberals love to scream about Pro Choice, because they really love to kill babies. It's your body they say, but when it comes to getting this shot, it is no longer your body. In certain parts of the country people are losing their jobs, getting kicked out of the military for refusing to take this experimental shot that doesn't work. What part of the country am I speaking of? The democratic parts, you know Cali, NY, Minn, Chi, etc... Look at the crime rates in these democratic ran cities, states, look at the schools. The democratic party literally does nothing for people, but yet remain in power for decades. The democratic party started the KKK, was against civil rights, was for slavery. The republican party was started to fight slavery, but yet somehow someway, the NO POLITICS figured out a way to get the blacks to vote for them at a very high rate. You have to hand it to them, they did a heck of a job making people believe that the NO POLITICS are the ones that are racist.
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Post by spiderjohn on Dec 24, 2021 10:35:47 GMT -5
amen eye bev dbl
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Post by 1hooper on Dec 25, 2021 9:59:32 GMT -5
There is so much BS in dblakers post it should not go unanswered. Some VIRUSES treated with vaccines are polio,ebola,flu,measles,mumps,rabies,rubella,shingles,chicken pox and small pox. There are many more. Mr Laker himself has been treated for many of them. And he opened his post with the statement "This is a crazy world we are living in". I'll leave his social opining alone. Merry Christmas.
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Post by unusualpete on Dec 25, 2021 11:25:37 GMT -5
company i work for has a no jab no job policy, which is fine, except it's a double standard when compared to its drug testing/rehabilitation policy. class a driver who takes ocean containers to and from the port and our distribution center left his entire meth kit in the lavatory, which was found, photographed and documented by the gm. driver shortage, i suppose. dude got a one day suspension and cleaned up for under a week. looked absolutely miserable trying to cope with life off the speed. has a decent safety record for now until he doesn't. the state can randomly drug test class a drtivers and revoke their licence. it's my understanding they do after any chargeable accident. if it's in the interest of public safety to have an all vaxxed workforce, i argue it's in the same interest to have a drug free class a driver. as is, it can only be classified as willful neglect. it's probably driven by economics. jab is free. rehab and piss tests are expensive.
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Post by dblakers on Dec 25, 2021 12:40:46 GMT -5
You are right hoop, My words were not correct there are some viruses treated with vaccines. What's the difference between those and these? Those provide immunity from the virus. The covid vaccine does not provide anything In America we don't get polio shot 1,2,2, booster one, two, three, pill one etc.... And after all that people still do not have immunity from the virus. They still want you to wear a mask. IF you are truly vaccinated, truly believe in it, then why worry about who is not? You are suppose to be safe right? I mean who walks out of their house and worries about who has polio? Nobody because we are all truly vaccinated.
How many billions of dollars are they making off of these covid vaccines? People like Dr. Fauci and his buddies. Bill Gates the guy that made windows is all about vaccines and population control. These people are pure evil. Do people really think this virus was not done on purpose?
The bible tells us that their will be a one world economy isn't all of this directed to make one world, universal. People open your eyes. Our government is suppose to work for us, not them telling us what we can do and not do. I guess in the end, the bible does not mention the United States, so I guess we will no longer be one day. It's obvious to me that we are heading in that direction, but so many people are to blind to see.
People believe whatever the Government tells them. Look at the Magic Bullet.
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Post by spanky126 on Dec 25, 2021 13:11:30 GMT -5
Such BS. Not going to get into politics. Magic Bullet? WTF?
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Post by UpInClass on Dec 25, 2021 13:30:18 GMT -5
...a fire for the holiday, really? Much handicapping to do. Good Luck!
Parimutuelly yours,
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Post by dblakers on Dec 25, 2021 23:53:24 GMT -5
yeah yall liberal pieces of shits magic bullet. You know the bullet that killed JFK. Yall believe that, yall believe anything.
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Post by PonyGirlJCM on Dec 26, 2021 4:14:26 GMT -5
Politics …..one of the things I thought we were not discussing on this forum… and even if we were and you had a different perspective there is no need for name calling….. the state of the world hurts me…. so much hate and anger….. there was a time when you could agree to disagree but not anymore…. do any of you think maybe that is what they want? For us to fight among ourselves? Seems like the majority of people are doing a pretty good job at it ……😔
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