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Post by 1hooper on Dec 6, 2023 14:57:49 GMT -5
Have inquired about housing for the four days.
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Post by propro on Dec 6, 2023 21:50:18 GMT -5
Hope they get lucky with some cooler weather. The Preakness has become racing's "Mr. Irrelevant" recently. It's going to win that award in spades next year when all the Derby runners except for the winner point for Saratoga.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2023 2:19:05 GMT -5
so this is because of renovations? because tl;dnr
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Post by spiderjohn on Dec 9, 2023 8:10:14 GMT -5
That could get me back to Saratoga And then off to the UK
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Post by tenfurlongs on Dec 9, 2023 13:52:36 GMT -5
If you want to stay abreast of ticket availability/presale, you can sign up here: www.belmontstakes.com/ticketsHotels in the area have already begun room offers, at outrageous prices, even on the Thursday. Saratoga Casino Hotel- Standard King Room Tuesday- $159 Wednesday- $509 Thursday- $759 Friday- $879 Saturday- $879 Sunday- $759 Monday- $159 TW
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Post by ozzy on Dec 12, 2023 21:19:05 GMT -5
Welcome to Louisville on Derby week… but at those prices, that would be a bargain
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Post by mysaladdays on Dec 17, 2023 9:10:26 GMT -5
Shortening the one TC race that is a true Classic doesn't make me happy. So much for TC races for me I guess. I will play foreign races instead. How can they even THINK about shortening it to 1-1/4 is blapsemy to me.
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Post by 1hooper on Dec 17, 2023 10:19:39 GMT -5
Can't wait for the pricing and backyard rules announcement. Going to be ugly.
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Post by spiderjohn on Dec 18, 2023 9:03:45 GMT -5
At the current location, we could always book a nice room for less in the city and take the Penn train out and back. An additional opportunity for the Springs facilities to get an extra week of big business-can't blame them..... Besides, 3-4 days of up and down Broadway should be enough for anyone. I could go for it, pending whether we go to Royal Ascot a week later
The distance change could lead to a much larger field, though Preakness could suffer(who cares?) Could lead to distance changes on the undercard also
Interesting
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Post by docd on Dec 18, 2023 19:00:08 GMT -5
should be 10f at the Spa ,12f NFW. that's that should be 12f at BP,10f @ BP? NFW ,that's that it's hard enough to get entries. I got an idea,Lets run all the Triple Crown races at SA at 9f with three weeks in between
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Post by 5wide on Dec 19, 2023 9:41:18 GMT -5
Shortening the one TC race that is a true Classic doesn't make me happy. So much for TC races for me I guess. I will play foreign races instead. How can they even THINK about shortening it to 1-1/4 is blapsemy to me. Lots of precedent. Especially in the early 1900's., late 1800's . More recently Tiz the law won at 1 1/8 m.
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Post by mysaladdays on Dec 21, 2023 22:32:00 GMT -5
Shortening the one TC race that is a true Classic doesn't make me happy. So much for TC races for me I guess. I will play foreign races instead. How can they even THINK about shortening it to 1-1/4 is blapsemy to me. Lots of precedent. Especially in the early 1900's., late 1800's . More recently Tiz the law won at 1 1/8 m.
I really don't care about precedent. The inside joke among people into classic distance horses and pedigrees and breeding for 10F + in the U.S. has always been that shortening races is the way things are going to go here, that stamina breeding / training has become a thing of the past, and now it really is happening. I happen to be into that genre so for me it's important and this is PAINFUL. There weren't enough races carded at over 1-1/8 to begin with........and now we are shortening one of the "big ones". Less owners want to wait it out what it takes to train a true router...beause they DO need a lot more bottom and foundation. But let them have their faster money, I am not owning a racehorse so I have no right to tell them how to use their horses. I get it. I really do. May as well retire the patient, long distance router trainers as well. I wonder what they are thinking, they have to be sad as I am. Maybe in another 10 years the will all be running 5.5F ..... Let's just turn TBs in to glorified QHs.......may as well. I will get my kicks playing overseas now. I am losing interest in US racing. If a TB here can't run that far then I"m out.
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Post by 5wide on Dec 22, 2023 12:54:53 GMT -5
Lots of precedent. Especially in the early 1900's., late 1800's . More recently Tiz the law won at 1 1/8 m.
I really don't care about precedent. The inside joke among people into classic distance horses and pedigrees and breeding for 10F + in the U.S. has always been that shortening races is the way things are going to go here, that stamina breeding / training has become a thing of the past, and now it really is happening. I happen to be into that genre so for me it's important and this is PAINFUL. There weren't enough races carded at over 1-1/8 to begin with........and now we are shortening one of the "big ones". Less owners want to wait it out what it takes to train a true router...beause they DO need a lot more bottom and foundation. But let them have their faster money, I am not owning a racehorse so I have no right to tell them how to use their horses. I get it. I really do. May as well retire the patient, long distance router trainers as well. I wonder what they are thinking, they have to be sad as I am. Maybe in another 10 years the will all be running 5.5F ..... Let's just turn TBs in to glorified QHs.......may as well. I will get my kicks playing overseas now. I am losing interest in US racing. If a TB here can't run that far then I"m out. I understand your passion for the breed, but I don't think 1 race being run at a shorter distance for 1 year is going to have any effect on the breed.
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Post by mysaladdays on Dec 22, 2023 23:49:13 GMT -5
I really don't care about precedent. The inside joke among people into classic distance horses and pedigrees and breeding for 10F + in the U.S. has always been that shortening races is the way things are going to go here, that stamina breeding / training has become a thing of the past, and now it really is happening. I happen to be into that genre so for me it's important and this is PAINFUL. There weren't enough races carded at over 1-1/8 to begin with........and now we are shortening one of the "big ones". Less owners want to wait it out what it takes to train a true router...beause they DO need a lot more bottom and foundation. But let them have their faster money, I am not owning a racehorse so I have no right to tell them how to use their horses. I get it. I really do. May as well retire the patient, long distance router trainers as well. I wonder what they are thinking, they have to be sad as I am. Maybe in another 10 years the will all be running 5.5F ..... Let's just turn TBs in to glorified QHs.......may as well. I will get my kicks playing overseas now. I am losing interest in US racing. If a TB here can't run that far then I"m out. I understand your passion for the breed, but I don't think 1 race being run at a shorter distance for 1 year is going to have any effect on the breed. Oh c'mon. The idea that I would even entertain that "1 year" would "have an effect on the breed".......sheesh. I've been watching breeding for 25 years. Hundreds of blogs by true pedigree experts have expressed the same thoughts as I have......I collected them over last 20 years. Making me out as if I'm saying the "sky is falling" over 1 race being shortened this year----- is kinda insulting to my grasp of the situation.
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Post by 5wide on Dec 26, 2023 18:37:06 GMT -5
Apologies, I misunderdstood. I thought you were addressing the thread topic, not lamenting about the overall situation.
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Post by docd on Jan 20, 2024 8:42:15 GMT -5
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Post by cherokeescot on Jan 24, 2024 14:33:45 GMT -5
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Post by docd on Jan 24, 2024 15:55:58 GMT -5
A $1,000,000.00 Fup should fill the gate
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Post by 1hooper on Jan 24, 2024 17:51:27 GMT -5
Bring your umbrella.
In Saratoga Springs in June, there's a 41% chance of rain on an average day. And on the average day it rains or snows, we get 0.51 in (12.9 mm) of precipitation.
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Post by 1hooper on Jan 24, 2024 19:01:05 GMT -5
A $1,000,000.00 Fup should fill the gate “NYRA is confident the Wilson Chute can safely accommodate at least 12 runners, but will consult with both the New York State Gaming Commission and jockeys before a final determination is made,” NYRA spokesman Pat McKenna said. I think the limit was 10 during the meet in '23. Chances are slim they get more than 7-8 entries but.. Ed DeRosa @ejxd2 Looking at numbers out of the Wilson Chute Saratoga, Posts 8-10 (never have run more than 10) are 2-for-60 w/ an Impact score of -71% and an ROI of -72%, but sure... let's run the Met Mile there. @ejxd2 Favorites in posts 8-10 are 0/7. Incidentally, favorites in posts 1-3 are 20-for-44 with a +17% Impact & +7.8% ROI. I.e. huge advantage to horses drawn inside of the Wilson Chute. Met Mile dreams out the door for those drawn outside.
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Post by docd on Jan 24, 2024 19:30:55 GMT -5
A $1,000,000.00 Fup should fill the gate “NYRA is confident the Wilson Chute can safely accommodate at least 12 runners, but will consult with both the New York State Gaming Commission and jockeys before a final determination is made,” NYRA spokesman Pat McKenna said Earth to Pat..............sssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post by docd on Jan 24, 2024 19:41:01 GMT -5
Bring your umbrella. In Saratoga Springs in June, there's a 41% chance of rain on an average day. And on the average day it rains or snows, we get 0.51 in (12.9 mm) of precipitation. It's 1/24/24 ,it is presently 38o with light rain. Should be 20o and a foot of snow .I wouldn't want to predict the weather for next week let alone June.It Is what it is.We made it we should live in it or.... lol GL
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Post by Badactor on Jan 24, 2024 22:59:44 GMT -5
I like the logo...
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Post by cherokeescot on Jan 25, 2024 15:44:37 GMT -5
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Post by 1hooper on Jan 25, 2024 17:39:36 GMT -5
$30 Friday, $50 Saturday. NYC prices for upstate venue. Imagine the lines with the rent-a-cops inspecting coolers for alcohol if Triple Crown on the line.
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Post by docd on Jan 25, 2024 20:12:45 GMT -5
$30 Friday, $50 Saturday. NYC prices for upstate venue. Imagine the lines with the rent-a-cops inspecting coolers for alcohol if Triple Crown on the line. my bar tab will be twice that
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Post by docd on Jan 25, 2024 20:16:28 GMT -5
I'm sure they will sell every square inch of the Clubhouse too
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Post by docd on Jan 26, 2024 16:39:18 GMT -5
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Post by 1hooper on Jan 26, 2024 16:50:01 GMT -5
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