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Post by Badactor on Oct 29, 2022 19:26:15 GMT -5
If we are to live or die with Flightline as a single,
we begin with something that looks a little like this...
RACE
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RACE Breeders' Cup Classic. FLIGHTLINE.
We're going to need a great team to work this out...
who has time to commit to meeting
Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and Friday
to decide our UIC BC PK6 winning ticket?
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Post by Badactor on Oct 29, 2022 21:57:54 GMT -5
RACE 6 Breeders' Cup Filly&Mare Turf. RACE 7 Breeders' Cup Sprint. American Theorem, Moira for Damascus (+ many others).RACE 8 Breeders' Cup Mile. RACE 9 Breeders' Cup Distaff. RACE 10 Breeders' Cup Turf. RACE 11 Breeders' Cup Classic. FLIGHTLINE.
Fill in the puzzle with your strongest opinions... you don't have to do every race. START best first.
RACE 6
RACE 7 American Theorem
RACE 8
RACE 9
RACE 10
RACE 11 Breeders' Cup Classic. FLIGHTLINE.
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Post by cherokeescot on Oct 29, 2022 22:07:34 GMT -5
Dell, Moira is in race 6 although she could run in that and still beat American Theorem in Race 7 š
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Post by UpInClass on Oct 29, 2022 22:11:46 GMT -5
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Post by Badactor on Nov 2, 2022 1:15:43 GMT -5
Nothing etched in stone... I'm happy with any of these on the ticket.
RACE 6
#1 Lady Speightspeare, #2 Going to Vegas, #3 Nashwa, #4 Above the Curve, #5 Tuesday, #7 Toy, #8 Family Way, #11 In Italian, #12 Moira
RACE 7 #4 American Theorem, #7 Super Ocho (HIB)
RACE 8 #1 Pogo
RACE 9 #2 Blue Stripe (HIB)
RACE 10 #10 Mishriff, #13 Highland Chief
RACE 11 #4 FLIGHTLINE.
COPY & ADD YOUR FIRST SHOTS.
Let's see what we come up with?
BTW... the Coo Coo in me says no NEST. Would also leave off Jackie. But that's me.
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Post by Badactor on Nov 2, 2022 12:24:37 GMT -5
$1.00 Pick-6 ~ Let's do a little horse trading, shall we? What's missing... what needs to be changed... what's your pleasure?
Take a look at this 1st Draft and tell me what you think... THERE ARE NO WRONG ANSWERS. 
2,3,4,5,7,8,10,11,12 / 2,4,6,7,9 / 1,3,4,8,13 / 1,2,4,6,7 / 2,5,7,11,13 / 4 = $5,625.00
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Post by ozzy on Nov 2, 2022 13:46:40 GMT -5
My first run through has me a bit skinnier as if sing,Inc Flightline Iām in at $2,592 so expanded to include Epicenter
3,4,5,9,11,12/ 9 (I could single here too) but will use 2,4/ 4,8,11 primary but expand to use 1,5,9,13,14 also/ 1,4,6 /2,3,5,7,11,13/ 4,6 = $5,184 if math is correct
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Post by cherokeescot on Nov 2, 2022 13:52:05 GMT -5
Good start.
My thoughts. .
Race 6 . Uncomfortable about leaving out #9 Rougir . Would either replace 2 or 7
Race 7 I think #7;Super Ocho is the worst of the long shots
Race 8 . #1 Pogo is the weakest of the Europeans . . Would replace with Annapolis
Race 9 If we are going to go six deep in here I would much rather have #3 Secret Oath as my long shot than Blue Stripe
Race 10 That would be my five picks also
Race 11 . Agreed !
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Post by lure on Nov 2, 2022 15:09:20 GMT -5
Definitely use Secret Oath. Working good and Saez can horseback.
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Post by tc on Nov 2, 2022 17:11:47 GMT -5
Here is my poor man's ticket:
r6)2/9/10/11 (Going to Vegas, Rougir,Virginia Joy, In Italian)
r7)2/7/8 (Kimari, CZ Rocket, Jackie's Warrior)
r8)3,5,11,14 (Kinross, Smooth Like Straight, Annapolis, Domestic Spending)
r9)1,6 (Malathaat, Nest)
10)2,5,9,11,13 (Warlike Goddess, Channel maker, Gold Phoenix, Mishriff, Highland Chief)
11)2,4 (Life is Good, Flightline)
From Bobtail's Thread.
$960
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Post by elkurzhal on Nov 2, 2022 17:18:34 GMT -5
Agree with Bev on Rougir & Annapolis.
Wouldnāt mind seeing Ivar (and finally a new rider) on the ticket.
Also, given that we have 224 shares, I do think we should put a small % to a non-flightline ticket. Why not have a shot for a real paydayā¦ there will not be many tickets without flightline that donāt also single at least 2 of; Jackie/Modern games/Nest. Maybe 3x3x3 in those legs. Take a stand with 1 or two in the FM turf and Turf then use the other 7 in the classic. Just try to play a ticket opposite of what most tickets will be.
Just throwing out some ideas. Fully behind whatever is decided! Letās crush it!
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Post by tc on Nov 2, 2022 18:56:43 GMT -5
Why is Lady Speightspire running in the F&M Turf?
Normally I would just move on but the trainer is Attfield, based at Woodbine. Not the type to take shots. Runs them where they belong.
Sensing she will definitely outrun her odds and although I know she is hard to use I would not be shocked (surprised yes but not shocked).
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Post by lure on Nov 2, 2022 19:58:53 GMT -5
Agree with Bev on Rougir & Annapolis. Wouldnāt mind seeing Ivar (and finally a new rider) on the ticket. Also, given that we have 224 shares, I do think we should put a small % to a non-flightline ticket. Why not have a shot for a real paydayā¦ there will not be many tickets without flightline that donāt also single at least 2 of; Jackie/Modern games/Nest. Maybe 3x3x3 in those legs. Take a stand with 1 or two in the FM turf and Turf then use the other 7 in the classic. Just try to play a ticket opposite of what most tickets will be. Just throwing out some ideas. Fully behind whatever is decided! Letās crush it! Love the idea of a backup ticket going deep in the Classic, but with that said, I am down with whatever ducat we play. I will be in Vegas honoring a long time horse racing pal that passed away in July. We always played Breeders Cup and he will be missed. But we will probably do what we usually do much along the lines of what the trainer said to the Jockey in the William Murray novel, Tip on a Dead Crab. " Get him out of the gate and get him clear and then when you turn for home, fuck up like you always do" Good luck gang, Lure |
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Post by tc on Nov 3, 2022 6:20:28 GMT -5
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Post by tenfurlongs on Nov 3, 2022 7:29:18 GMT -5
RACE 6 #3 Nashwa, #4 Above the Curve, #5 Tuesday (8-1), #11 In Italian
RACE 7 #2 Kimari, #6 Elite Power (6-1), #9 Jackie's Warrior
RACE 8 #3 Dreamloper, #4 Modern Games, #6 Ivar (15-1), #8 Regal Glory, #11 Annapolis, #13 Kinross
RACE 9 #1 Malathaat, #4 Clairiere, #6 Nest, #8 Society (6-1)
RACE 10 #10 Mishriff, #2 War Like Goddess, #3 Stone Age (15-1), #5 Rebel's Romance, #7 Nations Pride
RACE 11 #4 FLIGHTLINE.
4X3X6X4X5X1 = 1440
TW
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Post by damascus on Nov 3, 2022 11:20:14 GMT -5
Del, I am with you on Hector Berrios. Flying so low on radar he is almost on the ground. dam |
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Post by UpInClass on Nov 3, 2022 13:26:56 GMT -5
Not sure we're going to be able to afford my boy HIB.
I will say.. his are exactly the kinds of horses
that blow up the tote board and this kid has just moved
to the West Coast to make a name for himself..
he's in the big leagues now. He'll be looking for
a Kentucky Derby Mount this year.. that's how good he is.
Regarding Ivar..
Eric and Steve both like.
We need to find a place for this one.
Rougir & Annapolis, too.
There are many permutations, many ways to go.
We're not locked into anything..
let's keep the balloon in the air.
Just thinking out loud..
if these three all WIN,
we end with a "push" at best.
Jackie's Warrior, Modern Games, Nest.
A winning Pick 6 ticket without those would pay nicely.
Can we find the confidence to cut any of them
or are we locked into all three?
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Post by cherokeescot on Nov 3, 2022 20:11:21 GMT -5
Iāve read every single post that has been made on the BC thread and have tried to come up with a ticket that encompasses most (unfortunately not all ) of membersā thoughts. . This ticket would cost $5,292 and leave us some room to come up with savers which would have multiple choices in the Classic. For the turf races I have relied heavily on Tom Wiliiamsā choices as he has put in a mountain of research into these races Looking forward to seeing your comments / suggestions.
Race 6 #3 Nashwa #4 Above The Curve #5 Tuesday #9 Rougir #10 Virginia Joy #11 in Italian #12 Moira (7 selections)
Race 7 #2 Kimari #6 Elite Power #9 Jackieās Warrior (3)
Race 8 #3 Dreamloper #4 Modern Games #6 Ivar #8 Regal Glory #11 Annapolis #13 Kinross #14 Domestic Spending (7)
Race 9 #1 Malathaat #3 Secret Oath #4 Clariere #6 Nest #7 Search Results #8 Society (6)
Race 10 #2 War Like Goddess #3 Stone Age #5 Rebelās Romance #7 Nationās Pride #11 Mishriff #13 Highland Chief (6)
Race 11 #4 Flightline (1)
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Post by shoes on Nov 3, 2022 20:40:18 GMT -5
Nice job from my end. Didn't see the Distaff as quite that wide open, but I said I was going to stay out of the selections because I know how hard it is to reach a consensus. One other possibility to the back-up ticket going deeper in the Classic idea, either a back-up P4 or backup pick 5, which if you're beating Flightline and at least one other favorite could still easily pay 5 figures. and more than what a really chalky P6 would pay. But I'm also sensitive to Dell's notion about not watering down the original concept.
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Post by damascus on Nov 3, 2022 20:41:46 GMT -5
Only changes i would suggest would be drop viginia joy and then add a selection to the race we only have 3 picks in which im drawing a blank on i think the sprint?
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Post by cherokeescot on Nov 3, 2022 20:50:38 GMT -5
Only changes i would suggest would be drop viginia joy and then add a selection to the race we only have 3 picks in which im drawing a blank on i think the sprint? The problem with that is it puts our total up to $6048 |
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Post by Badactor on Nov 3, 2022 20:53:07 GMT -5
... I'm also sensitive to Dell's notion about not watering down the original concept. That's why you are the Chief Steward. š |
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Post by cherokeescot on Nov 3, 2022 21:01:52 GMT -5
Nice job from my end. Didn't see the Distaff as quite that wide open, but I said I was going to stay out of the selections because I know how hard it is to reach a consensus. One other possibility to the back-up ticket going deeper in the Classic idea, either a back-up P4 or backup pick 5, which if you're beating Flightline and at least one other favorite could still easily pay 5 figures. and more than what a really chalky P6 would pay. But I'm also sensitive to Dell's notion about not watering down the original concept. I like the back up late 50c Pick 4 idea. A 4x4x4x7 combination would cost $224 and still keep us interested if we got knocked out of Pick 6 early. |
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Post by lure on Nov 3, 2022 21:03:58 GMT -5
I give the back up p4 2 thumbs up.
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Post by damascus on Nov 3, 2022 21:10:51 GMT -5
Doh!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2022 21:11:38 GMT -5
this looks like a winner to me
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2022 21:21:59 GMT -5
i would HATE a ticket w/o modern games
and not mind not betting nest-
o besos will be on sum of my personal tickets
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Post by eye123 on Nov 3, 2022 21:33:18 GMT -5
Iāve read every single post that has been made on the BC thread and have tried to come up with a ticket that encompasses most (unfortunately not all ) of membersā thoughts. . This ticket would cost $5,292 and leave us some room to come up with savers which would have multiple choices in the Classic. For the turf races I have relied heavily on Tom Wiliiamsā choices as he has put in a mountain of research into these races Looking forward to seeing your comments / suggestions. Race 6 #3 Nashwa #4 Above The Curve #5 Tuesday #9 Rougir #10 Virginia Joy #11 in Italian #12 Moira (7 selections) Race 7 #2 Kimari #6 Elite Power #9 Jackieās Warrior (3) Race 8 #3 Dreamloper #4 Modern Games #6 Ivar #8 Regal Glory #11 Annapolis #13 Kinross #14 Domestic Spending (7) Race 9 #1 Malathaat #3 Secret Oath #4 Clariere #6 Nest #7 Search Results #8 Society (6) Race 10 #2 War Like Goddess #3 Stone Age #5 Rebelās Romance #7 Nationās Pride #11 Mishriff #13 Highland Chief (6) Race 11 #4 Flightline (1) This ticket looks right. One change you might consider in the 7th. American Theorem off of sheet # two back at DM. Jackie and Kimari similar #'s. Good Luck Group..... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2022 21:41:03 GMT -5
Iāve read every single post that has been made on the BC thread and have tried to come up with a ticket that encompasses most (unfortunately not all ) of membersā thoughts. . This ticket would cost $5,292 and leave us some room to come up with savers which would have multiple choices in the Classic. For the turf races I have relied heavily on Tom Wiliiamsā choices as he has put in a mountain of research into these races Looking forward to seeing your comments / suggestions. Race 6 #3 Nashwa #4 Above The Curve #5 Tuesday #9 Rougir #10 Virginia Joy #11 in Italian #12 Moira (7 selections) Race 7 #2 Kimari #6 Elite Power #9 Jackieās Warrior (3) Race 8 #3 Dreamloper #4 Modern Games #6 Ivar #8 Regal Glory #11 Annapolis #13 Kinross #14 Domestic Spending (7) Race 9 #1 Malathaat #3 Secret Oath #4 Clariere #6 Nest #7 Search Results #8 Society (6) Race 10 #2 War Like Goddess #3 Stone Age #5 Rebelās Romance #7 Nationās Pride #11 Mishriff #13 Highland Chief (6) Race 11 #4 Flightline (1) This ticket looks right. One change you might consider in the 7th. American Theorem off of sheet # two back at DM. Jackie and Kimari similar #'s. Good Luck Group..... the 7th is obviously the key race |
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Post by ozzy on Nov 3, 2022 22:04:07 GMT -5
No complaints from me on this approach as takes into consideration a wide range of opinions. Not a fan of Secret Oath in the Distaff but 15-1 and likely higher on the Oaks winner isnāt the worst wager. I could support getting down to 2 in the Sprint but works for me but may use AT there simply for our gracious benefactor in the Badactorā¦.. Not an Ivan fan in the Mile at all, but thatās just me and Iāve been wrong way more than Iāve been right in this game.
Love the back up Pick 4 idea, or go with the Pick 5 if singling Flightline. The Mile seems to have the most divergent opinions and the best payoff so I suggest going deeper there using 7 and narrow down to 4 in the other legs. Maybe 4 in the Sprint - 7 in the Mile - 4 in the Distaff - 4 in the Turf and Flightline in the Classic for a $224 Pick 5 for $.50 with a larger payout potential than the Pick 4. Of course limits options if trying to cash in and play against Flightline in the last leg.
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