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Post by 1hooper on May 24, 2022 16:56:43 GMT -5
How long before we say enough? Hooper
I can't believe the news today Oh, I can't close my eyes and make it go away How long, how long must we sing this song? How long? How long
Songwriters: Adam Clayton / Larry Mullen / Dave Evans / Paul Hewson / U2 Sunday Bloody Sunday lyrics © Polygram Int. Music Publishing B.v.
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Post by cherokeescot on May 24, 2022 18:22:08 GMT -5
No words 😭
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Post by 1hooper on May 24, 2022 21:11:26 GMT -5
I understand if Dell or another steward wants to take this down. Hooper
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Post by 1hooper on May 24, 2022 21:19:09 GMT -5
Steve Kerr's father was assassinated in the 1980's.
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Post by spanky126 on May 25, 2022 12:11:01 GMT -5
I am a little trigger shy (no pun intended) about posting anything controversial. Something has to be done. Now.
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Post by spiderjohn on May 25, 2022 13:16:09 GMT -5
Enough Backround checks are clearly necessary, though they hardly keep weapons from those most dangerous. Kerr's rant was understandable to a point, before going emotionally delusional and political---is this really a political issue? Majority still rules-------most support anything that would somehow keep weapons out of the hands of dangerous individuals. Obviously "catch and release bail"(this is not a fishing trip) has been counter-productive.....
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Post by spanky126 on May 25, 2022 14:26:34 GMT -5
The point has been made that an 18 year old can't buy a beer in a bar but he can get he can get a permit to buy assault weapons. That IS MESSED UP. To be honest, Being a democrat in Texas is tough when you have people like Ted Cruz and our Governor making the rules. Sadly we have no reason to believe another mass shooting won't happen again.I have much respect for coach Steve Kerr after he lost his temper and said enough is enough.
People like our own Mr. Hendry knows in other countries like his home country Scotland never sees these mass shootings. Never.
Like Hoop, If this post is taken down I'll understand. But due to what has occurred in a small Texas town I don't think posting about this rare tragic event is wrong.
JMO
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Post by tc on May 25, 2022 19:07:06 GMT -5
MLS listing please
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Post by eye123 on May 25, 2022 19:35:46 GMT -5
The road looks familiar
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Post by dblakers on May 25, 2022 19:48:36 GMT -5
All of these are very sad cases that should never happen. This is not a 2nd amendment issue. It's goes way deeper than that. Its a societal issue. We live in a Society that does not care about human life, does not care about God. 60 years ago and further, when GOD, the Bible was taught in school, when did these things happen?
Now what can we do to help so this thing won't happen again?
Personally I believe there should be state and federal laws passed saying you have to be 21 to purchase a gun of any kind. You can buy cigarettes, beer at 18, then you should not be able to buy a gun. Background checks should be done with a wait time of at least 60days. In these background checks if anything on social media is disturbing, no gun.
Personally I would like America to be more like other countries at the age of 18, I believe all Americans should have to serve 2 years in the military.
Now doing these things won't stop this from happening, but the evil person won't be able to buy a gun on their 18th birthday legally. They have to go out and buy a guy on the black market which I am sure is not to hard to do.
Sad world we live in.
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Post by mattcoll on May 25, 2022 20:36:53 GMT -5
dblakers mentioned mandatory two years in the military.
I have always thought this was a great idea. Take kids far from home, shave their heads and make them wear the same clothes and compete at the same level. Nobody cares who your parents are or where you came from. Mix them together with people from all over the country and see if they can make it or not. Wanna shoot some guns? Go for it. Get it out of your system and respect the power of the weapons in a formal, trained setting. Come out with some skills, organization, and the confidence that these young men seem to be lacking. Let them gain some respect for peers of all colors and accents. Cost? It's an investment in the human capital of the country. I think the term "military" could be broadened to mean two years of national service, but I do want a standardized component for parts of it.
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Post by spanky126 on May 25, 2022 21:44:40 GMT -5
Bev, It would cost me a fortune to replace all my Dallas Cowboy gear for Philly Green. I assume you are of the GOP persuasion,sir ? We do live in dark times. Hey Hoop, those boys from Boston just went up by 20 in the 4th...surely...
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Post by cherokeescot on May 25, 2022 22:00:05 GMT -5
Spanky , never assume , it makes an Ass out of U and Me.
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Post by PonyGirlJCM on May 26, 2022 3:08:58 GMT -5
dblakers mentioned mandatory two years in the military. I have always thought this was a great idea. Take kids far from home, shave their heads and make them wear the same clothes and compete at the same level. Nobody cares who your parents are or where you came from. Mix them together with people from all over the country and see if they can make it or not. Wanna shoot some guns? Go for it. Get it out of your system and respect the power of the weapons in a formal, trained setting. Come out with some skills, organization, and the confidence that these young men seem to be lacking. Let them gain some respect for peers of all colors and accents. Cost? It's an investment in the human capital of the country. I think the term "military" could be broadened to mean two years of national service, but I do want a standardized component for parts of it. I think this is a horrible idea…..not all people are cut out for what is involved with military training…believe me…I know…. The main issue in the world is no compassion for others….self-centeredness…. government looking the other way when they should be stopping violence in the name of protest…since when does violence make anything better? Isn’t that what war is? Some of the people committing these acts have been reported to authorities before and nothing done…. Remember when people could agree to disagree and still care for one another? Now families don’t deal with each other due to differences in how they see things…. Sad ….not sure how we got here…but trying to beat kids down is not the answer to fix it…..
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Post by quickcall on May 26, 2022 4:47:51 GMT -5
‘We the people’ no longer exists. My vote no longer counts.
‘Liability’ is a huge culprit. Decisions are made based on the fear of being sued, especially for State and Federal Governments.
Government, through corporations is running the people.
Family values have gone down the sh**ter. Too many fathers that aren’t involved in raising their own offspring.
We have made it too easy for people not to work.
We depend on other Countries for the products we need/use.
USA has no cohesive direction.
Etc., Etc., Etc.
So glad I’m not 20 years old now!
Money IS the root of all evil.
It’s not about weapons, addiction, suicide, etc., those are symptoms of the underlying issues that people are dealing with each day. We need to do a better job of focusing on these issues.
What is really causing someone to plan on taking a life/lives? To even think about taking someone’s life?
Each person’s case has it’s own individual ‘DNA’. One ‘law’ will not cover it all.
Family values need to change. Parenting skills need to improve. Accountability needs to correctly placed.
So many things to look into. Not a quick fix.
Just spouting off a bit this early morning.
I work in State Government and deal with people all day. I see too much. I’m jaded by it, no doubt.
And don’t get me wrong, dealing with the people is veru rewarding for me. I totally enjoy it. It’s the big picture that scares the h*ll out of me.
Peace, and let’s take care of each other. Teach and learn.
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Post by ziggy on May 26, 2022 7:49:10 GMT -5
We have a 'gun nut' living back behind us. I don't know why but one day he was just shooting guns. At some point somebody called the police. By then I'd guess there were a couple HUNDRED rounds fired. The sheriff left and there was a short but louder encore. I have no idea what he was shooting at that point but it had to be two loud hand guns because the shots were so close together and much louder. Kind of scary knowing that's yards away.
Mental health .... most of Maryland's facilities were closed. I'd guess most of those people were relegated to the streets.
BALTIMORE — During the month of March Baltimore City reported 26 homicides and 60 non-fatal shootings.
That is six more homicides and 44 more non-fatal shootings than at this time last year.
I'm not sure if we're up to one a day but it's close, I figure it's only a matter of time what happened in Texas will be repeated here!
The Freddie Gray riots here were supposed to be a peaceful demonstration, The police were armed with shields and batons. Gangs turned it into a confrontation. They had a plan. Tie up the police with that and then go 'shopping' in 20 pharmacies and other stores. I still remember the grocery cart leaving a burning Walmart with the people balancing a huge TV on top.
I grew up blocks from Pimlico. If you watch racing there a viewing of my grandmother's house can be seen. It's near the end of a stretch of row house right before the big tree. Every spring I was used to the gun fire. They shot breakdowns at the track, no drugs. We moved when the shots were after dark and you couldn't leave anything outside. My bike was stolen on one 'shopping trip'. The kicker was a kid riding it past me. The mess that was the inner harbor was moved to make that what it is today but turned the rest of Baltimore into a mess. Your tires were safe at Pimlico back then!
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Post by ziggy on May 26, 2022 7:55:16 GMT -5
I WALKED TO SCHOOL!
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Post by ziggy on May 26, 2022 7:58:48 GMT -5
Remember the nuclear attack drills .... get under your desk!
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Post by ziggy on May 26, 2022 8:04:48 GMT -5
It's the end of the school year. If I had kids summer would have started!
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Post by spiderjohn on May 26, 2022 9:54:06 GMT -5
Nice to read the above thoughts transcending political direction. People kill people, however guns make it easier.
Keeping all weapons out of the hands of dangerous people is a serious challenge. Thorough background checks with an adequate wait period shouldn’t be an obstacle, pending certain types of firearms.
Mental health and early abuse seem to be clear warning signs. Since the recent tragedies, I have tried to imagine the mindset of the shooters, however I cannot begin in any way to understand the thinking and intent.
How do you get there?
De-sensitized by similar? Repeat criminals without consequence? Authority standing silent amid rioting, violence, looting? Early and continued mental/physical abuse?
Probably all the above…..
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Post by ziggy on May 26, 2022 10:03:04 GMT -5
Mass shootings 1998-2019 US 101 France 8 Germany 5 Canada 4 UK 1
17 developed countries listed 38 total to our 101
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Post by spanky126 on May 26, 2022 10:03:19 GMT -5
If nothing else, it's nice to see comments from members that have not posted in a long time, even though the subject matter is so sad.
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Post by eye123 on May 26, 2022 14:21:19 GMT -5
This was from 2018 :
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Post by eye123 on May 26, 2022 14:46:07 GMT -5
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Post by 1hooper on May 26, 2022 18:06:48 GMT -5
Thought I'd wander over to the NRA website today. Hooper
The 2022 Annual Meetings & Exhibits will take place at the George R. Brown Convention Center May 27-29 in Houston, Texas. The Exhibit Hall is open all three days and will showcase over 14 acres of the latest guns and gear from the most popular companies in the Industry. From entertainment to special events, it’s all happening in Houston over Memorial Day weekend. Make plans now to join fellow Second Amendment patriots for a freedom-filled weekend for the entire family as we celebrate Freedom, Firearms, and the Second Amendment!
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Post by spiderjohn on May 31, 2022 10:18:34 GMT -5
Maybe less publicized, however 13 killed in Philadelphia this weekend, 10 in Chicago and 8 in Baltimore. A slaughter in Philly(?) was stopped when a legal ccfemale pulled out a handgun and killed a shooter who was spraying a party crowd. The violence continues as the heat of summer has not yet arrived.
Innocents gunned down for only being in the way.
Weapon crimes cannot continue to be catch and release---real consequences have to be put back in play.....
Protect the innocent law-abiding, weaponized or not----back to mandatory sentencing for weaponed offenders, particularly repeaters
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Post by 1hooper on May 31, 2022 11:32:59 GMT -5
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Post by 1hooper on May 31, 2022 11:40:49 GMT -5
The top 15 in percentage order.
Mississippi Louisiana Wyoming Missouri Alabama Alaska New Mexico Arkansas South Carolina Tennessee Montana Oklahoma Kentucky West Virginia Georgia
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Post by spiderjohn on May 31, 2022 13:19:06 GMT -5
Exactly—-it’s everywhere. Some effective and successful gun control would be widely embraced— meaning that it takes weapons out of the hands that use them criminally.
Honest law-abiding citizens with firearms for hunting, target shooting and family protection are rarely an issue. We read more often about firearms being used when threatened during home invasion. When municipal authority fails to protect people in an effective and timely manner, the citizen rightfully can protect themselves. A philosophy as old as nature.
The right to bear arms is fundamental, and more fitting during times of increased crime levels. How we relate to that is an individual choice.
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