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Post by UpInClass on Oct 4, 2018 0:21:24 GMT -5
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Post by eye123 on Oct 11, 2018 6:51:09 GMT -5
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Post by eye123 on Oct 11, 2018 9:28:40 GMT -5
Excerpt from Jon White xbtv article :
GOSDEN HAILED AS A GENIUS
After Winx’s latest win in Australia, Enable made it nine victories from 10 career starts when she captured the prestigious Group I Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe at 2,400 meters (about 1 1/2 miles) on Sunday at Longchamp in Paris.
Enable obviously is a tremendous filly. But even so, it took a training job for the ages by John Gosden and a masterful ride by the ebullient Frankie Dettori for Enable to come away with a narrow 2018 Arc victory. This close call was in stark contrast to Enable’s dominant 2 1/2-length Arc triumph in 2017 as a 3-year-old when the race was held at Chantilly because Longchamp was being renovated.
In this year’s Arc, Enable lurked within close range of the early lead, then charged to the front with a little more than a furlong to run. She kicked clear in the final furlong, but won by only a small margin when having to stave off the onrushing Sea of Class, a 3-year-old filly who certainly ran a huge race in defeat.
Next-to-last early among the 19 starters, Sea of Class still was behind 17 rivals or so with about three furlongs left to run. Sea of Class had to work her way through traffic in the straight before getting into the clear to make a run in the final quarter-mile. She then roared home to lose by just a neck. For Sea of Class to get so close only to taste defeat was rather cruel, especially inasmuch as her pedigree makes it seem as if she’s destined to become an Arc winner. Sea of Class is a daughter of 2009 Arc winner Sea the Stars, whose dam is 1993 Arc winner Urban Sea.
But then it’s not as if there aren’t any Arc winners in Enable’s family tree. Enable’s sire, Nathaniel, is a grandson of Urban Sea. Enable’s dam is Concentric, a great-granddaughter of 1971 Arc winner Mill Reef. You also can find Ribot, a two-time Arc winner, in Enable’s pedigree.
Speaking of Urban Sea, a quarter of a century after her Arc triumph, consider her mind-blowing achievement in this year’s Arc. The Racing Post’s Martin Stevens pointed out that the late daughter of Miswaki is the granddam or great-granddam of the runners to finish first through eighth in this year’s Arc (Enable, Sea of Class, Cloth of Stars, Waldgeist, Capri, Salouen, Kew Gardens and Nelson).
By virtue of Enable’s victory last Sunday, she joined Ribot and six others as a two-time Arc winner. No horse has won it more than twice.
These are the dual Arc winners:
2017 and 2018 Enable
2013 and 2014 Treve
1997 and 1998 Alleged
1955 and 1956 Ribot
1950 and 1951 Tantieme
1936 and 1937 Corrida
1930 and 1932 Motrico
1921 and 1922 Ksar
Gosden trained for a number of years in Southern California during the early 1980s. The Cambridge University graduate first gained attention on the world stage as a trainer when he won the inaugural BC Mile at Hollywood Park in 1984 with Royal Heroine. That talented 4-year-old filly polished off males that afternoon in the time of 1:32.60, a clocking that broke the American record for a mile on the turf.
One morning in the 1980s at Santa Anita, I asked Gosden, “Who do you think is the greatest racehorse of all time?”
Gosden said, in his opinion, it was Ribot, who won all 16 of his career starts, including those back-to-back Arcs for trainer Ugo Penco. And now, all these years after Gosden told me he felt Ribot was the greatest of all racehorses, the gentlemanly and articulate horseman has joined Penco in the exclusive club of those to have trained a two-time Arc winner.
Enable’s sire was a two-time Group I winner in England for Gosden. Nathaniel also finished second, just a half-length behind Frankel, in a one-mile maiden race at Newmarket in 2010. Frankel won all 14 of his career starts. In Frankel’s 14 victories, nobody ever finished closer to him than Nathaniel.
Winning Arcs is beginning to become business as usual for Gosden. He now has won three of the last four. In addition to the back-to-back Arc wins by Enable, Gosden sent out Golden Horn to take the 2015 renewal.
As for Dettori, his record number of Arc victories is up to six: Lammtarra (1995), Sakhee (2001), Marienbard (2002), Golden Horn (2015) and Enable (2017 and 2018). No other rider has won the Arc more than four times.
After Enable’s win last Sunday, Detorri said the Enable who won the 2018 Arc was not as good as the Enable who won the race in 2017.
“She wasn’t the Enable of last year but got the job done,” Dettori was quoted as saying in David Jennings’ Arc recap for the Racing Post. “That’s all that matters.”
Detorri also marveled at what Gosden did this year to win the Arc with Enable.
“This showed what a genius John Gosden is,” Dettori said. “He won the Arc with a filly who had not run in 11 months. Two Arcs for the same horse at two different racetracks.”
Two of the most phenomenal training jobs I’ve ever seen have occurred this year. In the United States, Baffert demonstrated yet again what an outstanding trainer he is by winning the Kentucky Derby with Justify. It was the first time a horse had won the Run for the Roses without having started as a 2-year-old since Apollo in 1882. Justify would go on to become the first Triple Crown winner in American racing history who did not race at 2.
And now Gosden has demonstrated yet again what an outstanding trainer he is by winning this year’s Arc with Enable in just her second start of the year. In Enable’s one 2018 race prior to the Arc, she registered a 3 1/2-length victory in the Group III September Stakes at 1 1/2 miles on a synthetic surface at Kempton in England. Twenty-nine days after the race at Kempton, Enable succeeded in the Arc.
According to Jennings, Enable this year became the first “Arc winner to get the job done on the back of just one run in that calendar year.”
“It’s been a nightmare year,” Gosden said Sunday. “I’m feeling a deep sense of relief. The elation will come later. It’s absolutely massive for the filly. It’s not easy when they go lame and they’re off for a long time. You’re not meant to come into the Arc after one run on the all-weather [at Kempton]. I had a slight hiccup between Kempton and here, which wasn’t ideal either. She had a temperature and missed a piece of work. And the way this race was run tested her fitness. The last 100 meters were an eternity for me, the jockey and the filly.”
Prince Khalid Abdullah (who races as Juddmonte Farms in the U.S.) bred and owns Enable. Enable’s owner also bred and raced the aforementioned Frankel.
Marcel Boussac became the first owner to win the Arc six times: Corrida (1936 and 1937), Djebel (1942), Ardam (1944), Caracalla (1946) and Coronation (1949). Enable’s owner now has a record-tying six Arc wins to his credit: Rainbow Quest (1985), Dancing Brave (1986), Rail Link (2006), Workforce (2010) and Enable (2017 and 2018).
The BC Turf at 1 1/2 miles on the grass Nov. 3 at Churchill Downs might be next for Enable, according to Gosden. If Enable does come to the U.S. for that race, she will attempt to become the first Arc winner to ever win the BC Turf.
Gosden also broached the possibility that Enable would continue racing in 2019 to try and become the first three-time Arc winner.
“It’s up to Prince Khalid,” Gosden said.
ENABLE 2-1 FAVORITE FOR BC TURF
There also was a Breeders’ Cup Turf Future Wager that closed last Sunday, with Enable a solid favorite. Here are the final odds:
2-1 Enable
7-2 ALL OTHERS
7-1 Robert Bruce
8-1 Roaring Lion
9-1 Channel Maker
10-1 Talismanic
12-1 Crystal Ocean
14-1 Glorious Empire
17-1 Arklow
18-1 Sadler’s Joy
39-1 Carrick
51-1 Liam the Charmer
108-1 Quarteto de Cordas
SCR La Extrana Dama
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 15:03:59 GMT -5
Thank you...watched both...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2018 15:07:14 GMT -5
Sad-lers joy will be looking to win this...if entered...lol...Carrak and Robert Bruce are of interest too...lol
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Post by frangooch on Oct 16, 2018 10:34:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 17:07:54 GMT -5
Sure wish they would give the pps for each horse...lol..and the other possible contenders that might have a chance at entering a race....lol..other wise it is mostly words...etc...nice to watch the past races But that takes up a lot of valuable time for handicappers...lol
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Post by DoctorDisaster on Oct 18, 2018 15:49:33 GMT -5
 She does look beat in that photo.Dettori said after the arc,she's not the same as last year.Gosden said she was breathing heavy after the arc.That bothers me but may not dissuade me. |
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Post by tenfurlongs on Oct 21, 2018 17:09:27 GMT -5
Thoughts before the pre-entries:
Enable is in. What other Europeans show up? Waldgeist, Cloth of Stars are both top shelf. I can't see any American horses finding the winner's circle in this.
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Post by UpInClass on Oct 25, 2018 3:01:06 GMT -5
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Post by ozzy on Oct 27, 2018 9:09:48 GMT -5
Arc winners have performed poorly in the BC Turf historically but I think Enable is different given her light campaign. I'll use some sort of US horse at a price around her most likely (maybe Arklow) with Crystal Ocean
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Post by jolyb on Oct 27, 2018 9:37:11 GMT -5
I read this morning that Crystal Ocean was not on the plane that brought 22 horses to Churchill from England last night. Has anyone heard about his status? I had been looking very seriously to use him on a wider ticket in the Turf just in case Enable hadn't retained her form after a major Arc effort.
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Post by ozzy on Oct 27, 2018 10:19:54 GMT -5
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Post by frangooch on Oct 27, 2018 12:32:03 GMT -5
Giving Waldgeist a big chance. Jink...
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Post by mattcoll on Oct 28, 2018 18:48:39 GMT -5
"2nd tier Euro" is the only profitable angle I have in this race. It's more a gambling race than a handicapping race, so I'll try Talismanic again as the ship/sharp turns/firm footing preference are established. I hit with Magician in the past so need to use Magical (like i said, gambling not handicapping) and the 3y/o filly angle is OK too. I don't use ARC winners but won't feel foolish at all if enable blows them away. Would be content just to witness it. The american division was historically weak this year, and I never figured them out and won't try to here.
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Post by cherokeescot on Oct 28, 2018 20:14:34 GMT -5
Looks like it is going to be a soft turf course given the heavy rains anticipated this week in Louisville. Looking through PPs most of them have won on soft to yielding turf. Should be all set up for Enable .
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Post by tenfurlongs on Oct 29, 2018 10:25:04 GMT -5
Waiting for entries/PP draw later today. Channel Maker is a better horse in his last three starts, coinciding with a change in pace tactics, with two wins over soft turf. Enable repeated in the Arc off a single all-weather prep, held on but didn't dominate rivals. Can't single her in this race. Waldgeist has been well-spotted this season, last two were top-shelf with a spot of trouble in the Arc near-miss. Taken to turn the tables on Enable. Trainer Fabre has won this race three times, including last year with Talismanic.
Most likely winners: Enable (P), Waldgeist (P).
Other win candidates: None.
Can use underneath: Channel Maker (E), Robert Bruce (P), Talismanic (P).
Running Style: (E)= Early speed; (P)= Pace tracker; (S)= Sustained late run.
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Post by jolyb on Oct 30, 2018 13:03:14 GMT -5
I've been intrigued by the recent schedule of Magical (#5, ML Odds 10-1). After finishing 10th in the Arc, 5 1/4 lengths behind Enable, she shipped to Ascot and on October 20 ran another 12 furlongs in the Group 1 British Champions Fillies & Mares S. on a soft surface and finished 1st at odds of 5-1. This race will make a total of 36 furlongs of racing in less than 1 month, on the heels of a full schedule of races in 2018. You don't see that too often.
I'm sure that Aidan O'Brien knows exactly where this 3 year old filly stands, but she must be a throwback to earlier days of racing to be able to handle such a tiring schedule.
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