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Post by Badactor on Apr 5, 2023 15:48:00 GMT -5
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Post by Badactor on Apr 6, 2023 11:22:51 GMT -5
quick thoughts:
Practical Move doesn't have to win to go to the Kentucky Derby.
AND... I did promise Hector he's going to the Kentucky Derby.
AND... the only way to do that is to get the upset on Saturday.
SO... I'm thinking I have to root for HIB aboard the Cal-Bred.
a lotta riff-raff in town for this race.
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Post by Badactor on Apr 7, 2023 10:56:20 GMT -5
Mandella in the mix makes this real interesting.
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Post by mysaladdays on Apr 7, 2023 11:26:11 GMT -5
quick thoughts: I did promise Hector he's going to the Kentucky Derby. AND... the only way to do that is to get the upset on Saturday. SO... I'm thinking I have to root for HIB aboard the Cal-Bred. a lotta riff-raff in town for this race.I picked that horse in our Sunland Derby contest. Good luck with him for sure! Lots to like |
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Post by Badactor on Apr 7, 2023 11:32:35 GMT -5
It's interesting to cross compare the entries of these final prep races
against the pool 6 future bet entries...
Hector's horse is one of the All Other 3-year-olds.
Ran a really weird race in the Sunland Derby.
I see it's 50 to 1 on the morning line.
The Army Mule / Any Given Saturday breeding doesn't inspire.
I've said Hector moves a horse up by two lengths
but he's going to have to improve this one more than that.
At this price I just need him to beat six horses
to get a birdie price for show in the contest.
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Post by merasmag on Apr 7, 2023 13:32:16 GMT -5
i think i am the only one that picked kent d in the 3 jockeys contest
i hope he gets the points
ps-i said it b4 and i'll say it again...I HATE THE POINTS SYSTEM!
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Post by mysaladdays on Apr 7, 2023 22:41:15 GMT -5
ps-i said it b4 and i'll say it again...I HATE THE POINTS SYSTEM! I only hate the points system because it looks like well over 100 points has been allowed to be abused..... ...... by a trainer who was BANNED from the KY Derby.. ...keeping deserving horses off the leaderboard----horses who had every right to BE in the KY Derby, horses with trainers who were not banned. All because a certain trainer who has been BANNED from our Ky Derby has used paper trainers to gather points, or just entered horses to win the cash. Arabian Knight alone took 20 points which deserving horses could have had. Somebody already added it all up, I won't repeat it here. One trainer has been allow to have stolen the glory from many hard working barns and hard trying horses. Make no mistake about that------nor horses who were used up like Nullarbor .......it's a disgrace. It's all about the $$ not love for horses. If a horse doesn't fit the Baffert Clone model, and doesn't have the correct running style, then they will be used for a rabbit |
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Post by merasmag on Apr 7, 2023 22:44:41 GMT -5
puhlease...i HATE the points system bcause trainers don't race often, they just go for points
has nothing to do with baffert
MONEY EARNED WAS MUCH BETTER
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Post by merasmag on Apr 7, 2023 22:48:45 GMT -5
and if not for this stupid gimmick what baffert (or anyone else) did or didn't do would be irrelevant...he could have top earnings and get passed over. didn't you get that is HIS point?
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Post by 5wide on Apr 8, 2023 16:38:16 GMT -5
$2 wps on Low expectations. Lets see how far he can take them .
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Post by 1hooper on Apr 8, 2023 16:43:28 GMT -5
Too much Kornacki on national broadcast. Show more paddock, trainers, owners.
Back to track feed.
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Post by mysaladdays on Apr 8, 2023 16:54:00 GMT -5
Those Sunday Silence's are just so gorgeous. Mandarin Hero is a SAND horse.
Did some research on his track. Figured he'd have some serious stamina but didn't know how that kind of tiring track he's used to running on would translate to cement-like track at SA.
Practical Joke ran great, cool calm collected as usual.
Wow, we really can't underestimate the Japanese contingents as many have in the past. It was a gutsy move to bring Mandarin Hero for this race!~
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Post by 5wide on Apr 8, 2023 16:54:34 GMT -5
Vasquez looked like he had a ton of horse. Ended up needing all of it to hold off Mandarin Hero and Skinner.
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Post by damascus on Apr 8, 2023 16:59:22 GMT -5
Maybe i am a little biased but it looked like interference by Practical Move turning into the stretch as he cut off Mandarin who then had to shift out.....then a little contact down the stretch as well. with that close of a margin the stewards should have looked at it.....they look corrupt again
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Post by ozzy on Apr 8, 2023 17:00:27 GMT -5
Practical Move had another dream trip…. He won’t be on my tickets in 4 weeks. Super run by Mandarian Hero…. The Japanese are so tough and with performances like this and more traditional campaigns, they may well win the Derby in the next 5 years. Skinner ran exceptional and with Sheriffs training him, give me 15-1 in 4 weeks!!!
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Post by tex on Apr 8, 2023 17:11:52 GMT -5
Agree OZ. The two going forward out of here are the second and third place runners. I hav e them
Both from the future book - curious what odds look like in the Derby especially MH if he gets in
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Post by mysaladdays on Apr 8, 2023 17:41:43 GMT -5
Randy Moss and Jerry Bailey were knocking the NAR night league.  It's a sand track, basically. Deep, like the Belmont. Guess they've never walked on it or something. I knew Mandarin was for real when I found out he had an Allen Jerkens-like blowout on Thurdsay afternoon that the Japanese kept quiet. He probably won't make the gate but I think he can stretch out and should stick around for the BEL and Preakness for sure! |
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Post by merasmag on Apr 8, 2023 17:42:46 GMT -5
Too much Kornacki on national broadcast. Show more paddock, trainers, owners. Back to track feed. can't YOU do sumthin about the STUPID points system? or do u drink the tp kool-aid? u get what u allow and i'll leave it at that u want points...u got points |
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Post by Badactor on Apr 8, 2023 22:31:27 GMT -5
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Post by mysaladdays on Apr 8, 2023 23:31:46 GMT -5
Note from a friend:
"Did anyone else notice Kimura high-fiving Vasquez after the Santa Anita Derby?!?
You rarely see our jocks doing that....it's far more common that they lodge a complaint, like Franco did in the Wood. After all, Kimura actually had grounds to lodge an objection, but instead it was a congratulatory greeting.
It reminded me of Matsuyama's caddy bowing down to Augusta after the Masters win a couple of years ago."
If there was any reason to lodge a complaint, the trainer would do it anyway not the jockey but I will have to watch again to see what Damascus and others saw.
But I guess this is why the Japanese are known for being one of the most polite and respectful cultures in the world. Apparently, a culture based somewhat on Confucianism which values loyalty, senese of shame, refined manners, modesty, honor and respect for the elderly.
My BFF lives there and says the subways, etc. are immaculate.
They really promote their racing, too.......plushies of Sodashi, etc. which gets young people interested in race horses, and beautiful posters for some of their horse heros. I tried to buy one but posters not for sale.
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Post by mysaladdays on Apr 9, 2023 11:32:40 GMT -5
A friend who was at SA said that in the paddock, Mandarin had a very thick bone and leg conformation, which stood out to him. I wonder if that has anything to do with not giving biophosphonates to youngsters over there?
At any rate, if he and that jockey are their “B” string from lowly "F-rated" NAR circuit........well then.....
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Post by merasmag on Apr 9, 2023 20:31:16 GMT -5
if there is any jock that's a has been it's...
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Post by mysaladdays on Apr 12, 2023 10:19:47 GMT -5
I will be heart broken if Mandarin Hero doesn't make the gate due to defections, but looks like they will stick around for at least the Preakness if he doesn't. I kinda took quite a likin' to this horse, for personal reasons.
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