COLLEGE PLAYERS OPTING OUT

[arsignman]

FOOTBALL PLAYERS OPTING OUT OF BOWL GAMES SHOWS THE ONLY THING IMPORTANT TO THEM IS MONEY !!
THEY HAD TALENT WHEN THEY WERE GIVEN 4 YEAR SCHOLARSHIPS, AND WHEN IT IS TIME TO PLAY IN THEIR LAST BOWL GAME THEY DECIDE NOT TO PLAY.  THEY HAVE TURNED THEIR HEADSON THE UNIVERSITY THAT GAVE THEM THAT SCHOLARSHIP, COACHES THAT HELP THEM GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND  SKILLS TO PLAY AT THE NEXT LEVEL, TEAM MATES THEY PLAYED GAMES WITH DURING THEIR TIME AT THE UNIVERSITY AND NOW SAY HELL WITH YOU ALL MONEY IS MORE IMPORTANT, AND FINALLY THE FANS TAHT ROOTED FOR THEM WHEN THEY PLAYED ALL THEIR GAMES FOR THE STATE AND UNIVERSITY. THIS IS VERY WRONG !!!!!

[1hooper]

Players learned the opt out from the coaches. Coaches force kids to transfer every year to gain back a scholarship.
No problem with a draft eligible kid protecting against injury.

[eye123]

Other side of the coin. Consider average cost 4 yr tuition $200,000 per student, avg team size 60 players. $12 Million cost to institution

Revenue from Football for Institution:

Texas – $92 million
Tennessee – $70 million
LSU – $58 million
Michigan – $56 million
Notre Dame – $54 million
Georgia – $50 million
Ohio State – $50 million
Oklahoma – $48 million
Auburn – $47 million
Alabama – $46 million
Oregon – $40 million
Florida State – $39 million
Arkansas – $38 million
Washington – $38 million
Florida – $37 million
Texas A&M – $37 million
Penn State – $36 million
Michigan State – $32 million


Considering having given up 4 yrs to the school(in return for an education that benefited the school as much or even more) and having the opportunity to make a career after college(in pro ball). Can you really blame a kid for thinking about his future. I think at this point, the school should respect the decision.(play or not play bowl) After all, college is preparatory to future job success.

[arsignman]

There is not a guarantee that all the players that opt out will become Pro Football Players.

[tc]

Blame the system not the individuals!!!

Build a system to incentivize the behaviour you want to see and individuals will follow suit.

Same nonsense applies to basic tenet of capitalism...a system that incentivizes individuals and corporations to maximize profits will naturally lead to the ills we see today.

[1hooper]

I'm guessing signman is talking about a specific player on his local team. Yes?

[arsignman]

I am not talking about a particular player. I have felt this way from the first player that opted out back a few years ago, by the name of McCaffrey who played at Stanford. Each year the list grows. I know they risk injury in a bowl game but to me your teammates, coaches, loyalty to the University and fans should be more important than dollar signs. 
I don't expect  people to agree but this is my opinion that is why everyone has an opinion and not forced to one opinion,  FREEDOM OF SPEECH !!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA !!!!!

[eye123]

I think this article is a fair assessment from both points of view(from those who chose to sit out,and those who didn't)


www.si.com/nfl/2018/12/06/jaylon-smith-jake-butt-skipping-bowl-games-injuries-draft-mccaffrey-fournette


I respect decisions by all here.

[spiderjohn]

maybe a new agreement contract between athletes and university spelling out obligations, payments and transfer + healthy opt outs of playing?
The landscape has changed over the last couple of years.....

[eye123]

Boy has the landscape changed.


When professional football began in the 1920’s it was a world of shoestring budgets. Teams played an average of six games a season with players returning to their day jobs on Monday morning. By the mid 1960’s it was still necessary for even members of a championship team to have a real job in the off season.
Take the 1964 pre-Super Bowl Cleveland Browns. Hall of Fame defensive end Willie Davis taught mechanical drawing. Jim Houston, the 1960 first round draft pick sold insurance. Guard Chuck Noll, who would become a Hall of Farmer for his coaching success in Pittsburgh, was a salesman for Trojan Freight Lines. Lou ‘The Toe’ Groza was also in the insurance business. John Wooten taught junior high school and even the legendary Jim Brown was a marketing representative for Pepsi.

PS...the "most" Jim Brown ever made in a season $50,000....even up till 1970 when the player's union was formed rookies were guaranteed only $9,000 a year...and mid 70's average salary range was still only $20 to $60 thousand. Today double digit million dollar signing bonuses with multiple year contracts that make players set for life.


Another interesting tidbit:   During the early part of his career with the Steelers, Bradshaw was a used car salesman during the off-season to supplement his income, as this was still during the days when most NFL players didn't make enough money to focus solely on football

[spiderjohn]

Interesting Lane Kiffen quote on players entering transfer portal:
“They are going where they get paid the most”

[shoes]

With all the talk about what is good for the athletes and the institutions, will no one consider the plight of the gambler? How are we to fill out our bowl pools, when we aren't certain who has opted out for which teams?

I am kidding (mostly).

[eye123]

Dec 14, 2021 13:35:08 GMT -5 shoes said:

With all the talk about what is good for the athletes and the institutions, will no one consider the plight of the gambler? How are we to fill out our bowl pools, when we aren't certain who has opted out for which teams?

I am kidding (mostly).

"Buyer beware"

......"Gambler Beware"