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Post by tenfurlongs on Oct 15, 2019 17:47:32 GMT -5
British Champions Day- four GIs, a GII Cup race featuring Stradivarius (barring too much more rainfall), and a huge field in the Balmoral Handicap.
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Post by spiderjohn on Oct 15, 2019 20:55:40 GMT -5
thanx 4 the heads up, 10f c u here Saturday!
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Post by spiderjohn on Oct 15, 2019 20:56:00 GMT -5
thanx 4 the heads up, 10f c u here Saturday!
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Post by 1hooper on Oct 15, 2019 21:19:17 GMT -5
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Post by tenfurlongs on Oct 17, 2019 13:34:58 GMT -5
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Post by tenfurlongs on Oct 18, 2019 7:21:46 GMT -5
The sprint and the two races at a mile will be run on the straight course, with the going listed as heavy. The three races run over longer distances will now be conducted on the inner flat course (where they normally run hurdles races), with the going listed as good-to-soft.
You can also see detailed records for every horse using the racingpost.com links below; just click on each horse name. RPR (Racing Post Rating), the far right column, gives a performance rating for bettors who want numbers to evaluate. I've listed a sample link here: www.racingpost.com/profile/horse/1956452/hello-youmzain/form
Post times listed are EDT in the U.S.
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Post by tenfurlongs on Oct 18, 2019 11:46:13 GMT -5
The A-List: #11- Advertise (4-1) two wins and a second in GI company since ill-fated 2000 Guineas effort in May. Colt hasn't run since early August in France, so should be fresh. Top class 3yo sprinter, heavy ground is the only ? Frankie Dettori aboard will certainly suppress the price. #12- Hello Youmzain (5-1) GI & GII wins sandwiched around a close third to Advertise at the Royal Ascot meet. Handles off going well. Had the mid-summer off, 3yo colt beat The Tin Man on return in the Sprint Cup, should be set for a top effort here.
The B-List: #1- Brando (20-1) 7yo gelding was 7th, 2nd, and 4th in GIs vs. top two in here. Handles heavy ground. Finished a close 4th in this race last season, capable at a big price. #2- Cape Byron (10-1) would normally dismiss his chances on class concerns, but he is a revelation on soft ground at Ascot, where the 5yo gelding has four of five career victories. Think the M/L maker got Brando and him backwards on the pricing. #8- Sands of Mali (12-1) 4yo colt shows poor form in three attempts this year. Off since apparent injury at Royal Ascot, trainer claims he's back to his best. Form on heavy ground is superior, won this race last year on soft ground. Do not dismiss out of hand. #10- The Tin Man (10-1) won the race in 2016, 7yo gelding took time to come around this season but close 2nd to Hello Youmzain in last puts him in with a chance. Heavy ground will also help his chances. #15- One Master (6-1) 5yo mare shortens up to 6F today, but has won at the distance previously. Enters off of a soft-ground GI win at Longchamp going 7F, her best distance. Got within 1.5 lengths of Advertise going 6.5F at Deauville, testing ground might suit her stamina reserves.
Like best: #12- Hello Youmzain
Using: #1- Brando/ #10- The Tin Man/ #11- Advertise/ #15- One Master
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Post by tenfurlongs on Oct 18, 2019 13:31:47 GMT -5
The A-List: Good time to take on #8- Stradivarius (3-5) at the end of the season over ground that could favor others, and yet this is arguably the weakest field he's seen all year. He's ten-for-ten in 2018-2019, runs his best race every time, won this last season in workmanlike fashion over soft going. Frankie loves him almost as much as Enable, expect a flying dismount following the running.
The B-List: #4- Kew Gardens (5-1) will be the newest O'Brien challenger to give it a go. He was in top form as a 3yo last fall, only beaten four lengths by Enable in the Arc. Only seen three times this year, all second place finishes including the Coronation Cup and the Irish St. Leger. Stretches out today and soft ground is somewhat of an unknown. Outclasses all but the favorite. #10- South Pacific (20-1) tried Stradivarius at Goodwood and got thumped, hasn't been seen since. 3yo colt has been slow to come to hand, handles soft ground and should be fine with the distance. Place chances. {edit: scratched}
If you're desparate: #6- Mekong (15-1) throws in an occasional stinker (York in June) but overall he has handled the distance, all ground conditions, and some decent competition this season. Ignore Sir Michael Stoute at your own peril. #9- Withhold (10-1) is a confirmed front-runner with two wins in three starts in 2019. His Marsh Cup win at Newbury in July over soft going makes him a player. How far can he stay?
The Play: TRI- 8/4,5,6,9,/4,5,6,9
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Post by tenfurlongs on Oct 18, 2019 14:28:56 GMT -5
The A-List: #11- Star Catcher (8-5) won the GII Ribblesdale at Royal Ascot from Fleeting, then beat that one again in the Irish Oaks (GI) at the Curragh. Had a break, resurfaced in GI Vermeille at Longchamp with a solid if unspectacular victory. Handles soft ground. Has beaten many of today's opponents, and the new shooters seem underwhelming. Her race to lose for Gosden/Dettori.
The B-List: #3- Anapurna (4-1) was no match for the favorite returning from a layoff at Longchamp. Raced there again two weeks ago and secured her second GI win with a facile score over soft ground that she relishes. Don't discount the Epsom Oaks winner in here, but she has to find a bit more. #6- Fleeting (6-1) (a half-sister to the unraced War Command filly Attendante) has had a busy season including a trip to the States to be 4th in the Beverly D. at Arlington in August. She's yet to beat her nemesis Star Catcher in three tries, but handles soft ground and will look to run them down late. Knocking on the door in GIs.
So you want a bomb?: #1- Klassique (20-1) has done little wrong in ten starts, loves the off going, and comes from the William Haggas yard, J. Doyle in the saddle. GIII winner enters fresh, likes the distance. Discuss.
Like best: #11- Star Catcher
Using: #1- Klassique/ #3- Anapurna/ #6- Fleeting
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Post by DoctorDisaster on Oct 19, 2019 6:48:30 GMT -5
1:35 Key runner, 15 One Master 6/1 Interesting Long Shot,2 Cape Byron 10/1
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Post by 1hooper on Oct 19, 2019 7:34:52 GMT -5
Tin Man getting bet, trying him at 4-1.
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Post by 1hooper on Oct 19, 2019 7:40:16 GMT -5
Didn't see that winner
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Post by spiderjohn on Oct 19, 2019 7:42:41 GMT -5
nor me xboxed 1-2-11-12-15 so close but a loser Dream Ahead?
next!
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Post by tenfurlongs on Oct 19, 2019 7:52:41 GMT -5
Contenders List: #2- Benbatl (6-1) impressive win last time on return from long layoff. Only beaten 2 lengths by Winx in the Cox Plate last fall. Clearly high class, testing ground is the question about him. #5- Lord Glitters (7-1) veteran miler can win at the highest level, and has a sparkling record at Ascot (6/2-3-0). Drops back in distance off a close-up sixth in the Juddmonte Int. S. (GI) in August. #8- The Revenant (2-1) has won 7 of 9 career starts, mostly over soft to heavy course conditions. This is his first attempt at the top level, but a repeat of his last at Longchamp would probably win this. #11- King of Comedy (10-1) lightly-raced 3yo just missed in the St. James Palace S. here at the Royal meet, then ran a close fourth to Japan and Crystal Ocean in the Juddmonte. Prepped for this with a 2nd to Benbatl at Newmarket. Upset special for Gosden/Dettori.
Verdict: #11- King of Comedy for the win. Exacta box with #2- Benbatl/ #5- Lord Glitters/ #8- The Revenant
update: keep coming back to #16- Veracious (20-1) her last three were excellent efforts, she handles today's ground. It just looks like she's been pointed to this race. Have to use win/place.
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Post by DoctorDisaster on Oct 19, 2019 8:12:39 GMT -5
2:10 Key runner 5 Max Dynamite 50/1,has had trouble getting past 8 Stradivarius 1/2,but they were on firm ground. Long shot play 1 Bin Battuta
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Post by spiderjohn on Oct 19, 2019 8:43:12 GMT -5
very soft today many don't like it got the last tri to get back close to even
tight loss for the champ
tri pw 6-12/3-6-11-12/1-2-3-4-6-11-12
gl!
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Post by 1hooper on Oct 19, 2019 8:52:20 GMT -5
Brutal trip
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Post by tenfurlongs on Oct 19, 2019 9:00:15 GMT -5
Contenders: #1- Addeybb (3-1) wants heavy ground, the softer the better. Knocking on the door at the top level, but others entice more. #2- Regal Reality (15-1) ran very well in both the Eclipse and Juddmonte, handles off going. May show his best today, is it good enough? #3- Coronet (7-2) has had an abbreviated campaign this season, but won last two GIs in France. Likes the distance, the course, and the soft ground. Expecting her best today. #6- Magical (9-5) is as classy as any horse not named Enable. Top form all year until a hiccup in the Arc last time. At the offered prices, will try Coronet on top.
Verdict: EXKEY- #3- Coronet with #1- Addeybb/ #2- Regal Reality/ #6- Magical
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Post by spiderjohn on Oct 19, 2019 9:02:06 GMT -5
nice win by the chalk I got nothing
xbox 2-3-8-11-12 with many other possibles
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Post by tenfurlongs on Oct 19, 2019 9:03:21 GMT -5
I was watching Fleeting moving forward strongly into the last furlong Hoop. You could just see she was going to get pinched in between those two. Still ran on well for fourth.
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Post by tenfurlongs on Oct 19, 2019 9:54:29 GMT -5
Tying together a few non-favorites that should handle the going and the weights. Crapshoot time.
EXBOX- 3,4,13,17
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Post by cindyloujazz on Oct 19, 2019 10:15:27 GMT -5
UK Ascot Race 6-- I am taking a shot with #18 Waarif 30-1 ml Good luck all!
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Post by spiderjohn on Oct 19, 2019 10:19:40 GMT -5
if anyone has any $$ left(and you should--formful morning), take a look at #4 in the 7th @ Leopardstown ------------------------- opens @ 1/5 from 5/1 I wasn't THAT serious!
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Post by 1hooper on Oct 19, 2019 21:57:12 GMT -5
Donnacha O'Brien was left wondering what might have been on the eternal hard-luck story Fleeting, who was again denied a clear run at a crucial point and came home strongly in fourth. Everything went smooth until the last furlong, but when I went for the gap it didn't come,he explained. I was probably an unlucky loser. I took a chance to go between them and it didn't pay off.
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