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Post by eye123 on May 7, 2019 11:04:27 GMT -5
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Post by spiderjohn on May 7, 2019 11:11:32 GMT -5
After watching 34 runners go a straight 5f @ Royal Ascot, and 38 runners in various other races there, this argument seems somewhat hollow.
Bad trips, bumping and shut offs happen. Race riding is a key, and our riders today are some of the worst imo. The one starting gate theory makes sense, and Cd can definitely afford it.
Idiot unsafe riding is the issue imo.
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Post by eye123 on May 7, 2019 11:32:12 GMT -5
What argument? What you see is a compilation of field sizes over the years. geez  |
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Post by spiderjohn on May 7, 2019 11:57:00 GMT -5
Fair enough—I assumed that field size was the discussion, as it usually is after the Derby.
Touchy touchy
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Post by eye123 on May 7, 2019 12:28:21 GMT -5
Spider, a little less coffee, a little more valium. lol!
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Post by spiderjohn on May 7, 2019 13:58:08 GMT -5
eye--don't drink coffee--never have
have never even seen a valium
this Derby is over--the result is going to stand because the dq was legit.
Should the Derby be judged by a different standard because of the large field by US standards? Maybe....
No argument that the best horse was taken down unfortunately, however MS DID dangerously interfere with a runner making a strong move.
We(and everyone involved) are extremely lucky that WOW did not go down, because the carnage that probably would have followed would have had far more serious consequences for racing.
Have you ever watched the crush in to the first turn from a live eye-level head-on position?
I did just that one year--brutal, and there is a long run-up to that turn.
You don't see many "barging" dqs overseas despite the large fields and brutal trips.
Let it go, pal!
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Post by eye123 on May 7, 2019 14:22:48 GMT -5
Spider, the coffee,valium reference was written figuratively. (most would understand that) You took it literally. If I were to say don’t go bursting a vein, would I get “I’ve been to the doctor and he found no aneurysms, I’m very healthy”. Very odd. (and kind of defensive) What I posted was a compilation of field sizes over the years. Just accept it at face value. Pretty simple stuff.
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Post by ozzy on May 7, 2019 15:06:37 GMT -5
Gary West commented in his NBC interview that only Churchill ran 20 horses and only in the Derby because they were “greedy.” I assumed it was related to that pointed comment. Heaven forbid he ever run in the Arc, Melbourne Cup, etc....
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Post by eye123 on May 7, 2019 15:24:19 GMT -5
When they did away with the "field" that exploded the mutual handle. (from 12 to 20 interests)  |
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Post by spiderjohn on May 7, 2019 20:01:05 GMT -5
nbd eye---u seem so serious on other topics and seem very bothered by the dq and the size of the Derby field, I assume the drug references to be insulting at the least. I probably come off as more serious than I am also. The "field" option also covered 20 runners, so I don't get your point(why not list them all separately?)about the normal Derby field size. We watched ?able decisions decide nfl playoff games and ncaa hoop tourney games also.
2019 is obviously the year for this type of thing--maybe you still have too much hangover from the Mueller thing, and it carries over to this conversation?
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