Metformin?

[Badactor]

Metformin? I take Metformin.
It doesn't make me run any faster.
What's the benefit of giving it to a horse?
www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/wong-provisionally-suspended-after-b-sample-confirmation/

[Badactor]

Benefit is the wrong word. What's the point? Advantage?

[1hooper]

While metformin is a permitted medication by the U. S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) for humans in athletic competition, the National Institutes of Health published a study indicating it has an effect on athletic performance. In a study of 10 men, they determined that “time to exhaustion was significantly higher after metformin than placebo ingestion,” and that “metformin improved performance and anaerobic alactic contribution during high-intensity exercise.”
Link from last month. www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/wong-suspended-for-metformin-our-game-has-been-hijacked-says-attorney/

[docd]

Aug 11, 2023 14:00:37 GMT -5 1hooper said:

 In a study of 10 men, they determined that “time to exhaustion was significantly higher after metformin than placebo ingestion,” and that “metformin improved performance and anaerobic alactic contribution during high-intensity exercise.”
Link from last month. www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/wong-suspended-for-metformin-our-game-has-been-hijacked-says-attorney/

What would Elon say about that"study".

[docd]

And we will have drug free racing.

[merasmag]

goin' 4 sum shock value here?
or r u just trying to offend
normal people?

[mysaladdays]

Let me understand this.

As we recall, Baffert gave thyroid medication to horses who had no medical diagnosis for thyroid dysfunction or thryroid disease.

From my reading, Wong is on Metformin, and acccidentally contaminated his horse?

OR he gave gave Metformin to a horse directly?   Hopefully, the former.  I do agree the decisions have to be quicker as to not deny a trainer of a paycheck long term. 


What I know about metformin is that, when given to humans,  it IS medically necessary, since it lowers blood sugar when diet and exercise alone is not working. (Medically necessary so that the human does not end up in diabetic shock.)   

However, doesn't metformin come in PILL form?   (One would hope) that if you are taking those you wouldn't just be lazily carrying a pill or more in hand when dealing with your horses, so that a horse could be contaminated indirectly?   |

Would a tiny bit of "pill dust" off a metformin pill (let's say you emptied one in your hand, swallowed it in some water, and didn't wash your hand afterwards. Sort of like how an aspirin might leave a bit of pill dust in your sweaty palm). 


My question:   Is a little bit of "dust" off a metformin pill, IF you were lazy and sloppy,  if licked off by a horse, be enough to set off a positive in a blood or urine test?  I would like to know this.   


If metformin was given on purpose though, what is the medical diagnosis for giving to a horse?   "True insulin dependent diabetes is very rare in horses. Much more common is inhibition of insulin function by cortisol in horses with PPID (Cushing's Disease).   Cases occur when the pancreatic cells are destroyed from pancreatitis or pancreatic cancer."  So, if a horse has a legitimate diagnosis of either Equine Metabolic Syndrome, Cushing's Disease, Pancreatitis or Pancreatic Cancer, these are serious medical disorders?   To my mind, should a horse like that be racing at all?   Seems they should be serving in some other function, rather than high athletic performance, since this appears to be either a case where a horse has a disease, or hard-to-control disorder? 


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P.S.  My 2-cents on the Hitler thing, we all know that, traditionally, Godwin's law states that once Hitler is mentioned, that discussion is ended.  (one might say civil discussion is ended).    The implication is that the level of discourse has devolved to the degree that further communication is pointless.  And the person who invokes it is said to have already lost the argument.   My opinion is that there are certainly more cogent ways to present a viewpoint "without going there"?