Bengals - Pats

[1hooper]

Bengals anywhere from -3 to -4.5 (SI Sportsbook). O/U about 41.
20 degrees and 15 mph winds. Uncomfortable at best.

[spanky]

Thanks Hoop. Meanwhile,i will take shot on the bowl game with...a rare over play here...Houston has players hurt or declaring for the NFL.

WagerType: Date: Team: Risking / To Win Ticket#:
Straight Dec 23 CFB [229] TOTAL o56½-110 (Houston vrs UL Lafayette) 28.00 USD / 25.00 USD 41938200

Straight Dec 23 CFB [230] UL Lafayette +6-110 28.00 USD / 25.00 USD 419382016:30 PM Dec 23
#231 - Wake Forest

-2½-110
o58½-110
-135

#232 - Missouri
+2½-110

u58½-110
+115

[spiderjohn]

Hard game to figure, with the weather factor. Bungles clearly have the best O, and seem to be playing well. The Pats--??
I dont get what has happened there. qb Jones and his wrs have seriously regressed this season. I agree with Hoop in that Iont see this year's coaching changes(O coordinator) being in the right direction. rb Stevenson is a quality stud, but can only take them so far vs the better teams.

Mac Jones has taken incredible heat from everywhere this week. Can he step up vs a decent Bungle D? He had better, or NE will lose. After last week's finish, I would think that NE would play at their most inspired tomorrow. All rests on the shoulders of their D. Still might not be enough, because Cincy will be ready imo.

Worse the weather gets, the better chance for the Pats to show something.

Keep us updated early if u can....

And take a break from reading that Congressional theater please

[spanky]

In my view, Belicheat may be slipping. They all do. From Lombardi to Landry.From Shula to Parcels. 

[goldandmyrrh]

Not liking giving more than 3 points on the road, but I will. Cinci should control the game...they're more talented and much healthier. The Pats have a lack of people of healthy running backs and healthy receivers. There's nobody much for Jones to throw the ball to, assuming he can grip it right. Cinci has the better qb, multiple healthy receivers and running backs. Don't see any issue with the weather. It's cold(er) in Cinci than Foxboro. Medium wind will only add to Jones trouble in passing downfield, but to who?

Weather may be a slight issue in the Sunday Dolphin-Packers game. It'll be cold by Miami standards, more suitable for the Packers, but to no great extent. The Dolphins showed up big playing in Buffalo in cold and snow. Dolphins have the better team and a qb who's actually trying, and mainly succeeding. They should win what may be a closer than expected game.. Packers may have some "miami effect" if they're here a day or 2 before Sunday. South Beach is a draw, opposing teams going nowhere get weak in the 4th quarter after their exploits the night before.

[1hooper]

Bright, sunny and 10 degrees now. Should not get out of the high teens at Gillette. Gusty winds will effect field goals.
This Congressional theater is better than Shakespeare's King Lear.

[spiderjohn]

I unnerstan hoop though it comes down to the definition of “better”—-and the drama will probably increase going forward, wit bc our bi-partisan pork deficit budget being the latest disaster.

So on to the important things……you think passing game should be functional today and in the eastern games? Pats probably still need to run it and get turnovers…..

2 degrees and little wind feels like a heat wave compared to yesterday

[spanky]

Bengals should dominate. Dallas D needs to prove they are top shelf vs team with hurt QB and Houston is sneaky good.KC will step up at home. I still like a San Fran vs. Buffalo SB. My last word on politics....a loose comparison of how NO POLITICS will go down. Took many years to nail Capone for taxes and I think the same thing could happen to NO POLITICS . Just my opinion. I can still see a woman in charge.

[1hooper]

Wind direction should dictate strategy through out for field goals and deep passing game. 15 mph, 15 degrees and gusty right now.
Better = more entertaining for this exercise. Will make a great screen play or Netflix series. Been voting for 5 decades never seen a budget without pork. Hard to change the system at this point.
Off topic the new NCAA rules regarding NIL and transfer portal are making things worse. New head of NCAA is former Mass. governor Baker. Good luck.

[goldandmyrrh]

The Pats secondary and linebackers are dinged up more than most at this time of the season. Don't see this game being decided by fieldgoals. Cinci should dominate by TD's. Pats might have some give-up in them after Meyers threw last weeks game away. Pathetic. Almost worse than thinking of re-electing a tax-cheating, small contractor cheating, inflated egotistical blowhard who tried to stage a coup on our government. Look for the Pats to try to run today, that might work. If the fans voted for running over throwing, I would respect and accept the vote either way. This is what makes America great today.

[spanky]

Right on gold! We speak the same language!Talk about blowhards...let me put real blowhard on the list. One Rex Ryan!That toe sucking turd and his brother both never did anything to impress me.Can I get an AMEN?

[spanky]

Hey spider...the total for the Buckeyes vs. Bulldogs is 61. Georgia has a rock solid D. Ohio State is solid as well. under play? Defense usually wins.

[spiderjohn]

Wow—-pats remind me of thursdays Jets……
Will be an interesting rest of the season.
Zappe?

[spanky]

Skunked at half? Pats scored...is it a comeback from 0-22?.... Or a teaser from the NFL Gods? 22-12 now...no Zappe yet...

[spiderjohn]

Thought maybe I had become the new Cooler…

[spiderjohn]

Maybe Josh McDaniels of the Raiders becomes available to return as OC? His consistent late game meltdowns his season might get him fired. He had success with Mac Jones, though Jones might become old news.

Hooper?

[1hooper]

My understanding is the Raiders don't have the cash to buyout McDaniels until after next season. They took a big money cash hit with the Gruden divorce.
The two clowns running the offense this season are here because the Giants and Lions are still paying them, Belichick has used that loophole many times in the past. Judge still getting Giants money for 2 more years I think so he'll be going to special teams coach next year and Patricia is done getting Lions money so my guess is he'll slide over to Jerod Mayo's spot as defensive coach. Mayo will get more looks again this off season to be a head coach but he at least wants the defensive head spot but he is not getting it with Belichick's kid calling plays. Kraft has given BB enough rope the past 3 years to hang himself and he is closer than many believe to doing it.
Fun to see how the behind the scenes stuff plays out. Win the last two and they are in the playoffs, crazy.