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Post by mysaladdays on Oct 14, 2021 15:51:48 GMT -5
I'm following the Classic Empire offspring (even Sport Pepper, who will most likely not be in the races has been very good to my wallet).
Also the Candy Ride / Storm Cat bloodlines, War Front, Street Boss and Ghostzapper progeny.
Have to say it will be nice to not have Baffert in the races .... some very good and unsung (honest) trainers deserve the limelight anyway.
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Post by 1hooper on Oct 14, 2021 17:54:08 GMT -5
Maybe the Practical Jokes. Multiple G1 winner. They were a hit the last two years at auction and his 2yo's are running well this year. And he only finished 3/4L behind Classic Empire in the 2017 Derby.
Will they stretch out next year?
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Post by elkurzhal on Oct 18, 2021 8:13:41 GMT -5
probably a bit under the radar, but American Freedom is interesting. www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-register/stallions/169983/american-freedomfrom the Tgraph stats overall (all 2 yo) 39 runners have made 86 starts. 9 wins (10%) 25 itm (29%). dirt 32 runners have made 59 starts. 8 wins (14%) 23 itm (39%). less than a mile 39 runners have made 81 starts. 9 wins (11%) 23 itm (28%) over a mile 3 runners have made 5 starts. 0 wins (0%) 2 itm (40%) What is interesting is the in the really small sample of a mile+ the average thorograph fig is 4.75 points better would think if that holds up he will get his first mile+ winner today with Dia De Sol in the 8th at Parx. |
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Post by elkurzhal on Oct 18, 2021 15:20:55 GMT -5
edit Dia De Sol was American Freedom's first route winner today  |
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Post by abe1947 on Nov 4, 2021 12:07:19 GMT -5
I've been off this forum for a few years.Used to enjoy following the Derby Trail. there used to be several indicators to look for in a Derby horse like DQ, dosage, ran/won race at 2yr, etc. are there any indicators now that anyone would be willing to share? TY
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Post by elkurzhal on Nov 9, 2021 13:51:39 GMT -5
Abe, I think the new points system kind of made a lot of the old indicators like the ones you mentioned obsolete. Maybe the portion of the DQ idea where a horse had to be a solid 2 yo is still important, but we have seen horses with no 2 yo starts win now too. kind of turned into a lot more form-full race with all the horses who got earnings in 2yo sprint races filtered out.
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Post by UpInClass on Nov 10, 2021 20:54:12 GMT -5
 2021 Sires of 2YOs by Progeny Earnings
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