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Post by UpInClass on Apr 3, 2019 17:21:00 GMT -5
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RACE 10 Wood Memorial Stakes (Grade II) Purse $750,000. For Three Year Olds. One And One Eighth Miles. 1 Tax (KY) - 9/2 2 Tacitus (KY) - 5/2 3 Hoffa's Union (KY) - 6/1 4 Haikal (KY) - 7/2 5 Final Jeopardy (KY) - 8/1 6 Overdeliver (KY) - 20/1 7 Not That Brady (NY) - 20/1 8 Grumps Little Tots (KY) - 30/1 9 Math Wizard (KY) - 30/1 10 Outshine (KY) - 6/1 11 Joevia (KY) - 30/1 www.equibase.com/static/entry/AQU040619USA10-EQB.html
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Post by propro on Apr 3, 2019 23:28:23 GMT -5
I've been waiting for Hoffa's Union to show up in an allowance race after he looked like Cigar in his debut at Laurel. His about a mile and a sixteenth was 2/5ths faster than a solid group of four year old colts and geldings in the race prior to his and that was a THREE other than allowance. Shocked to see the Wood. Not shocked that he was sold after his debut. Clearly, this is a tough group but he's far from a toss.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 10:22:14 GMT -5
it looks like a rematch of the 2 & 10....and the 4 may catch them napping...of the horses that did NOT win last time out, it looks like the 10 will win this.. or 4 should do...the 11 looks very interesting in this race and need evaluation...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 10:33:49 GMT -5
it looks like a rematch of the 2 & 10....and the 4 may catch them napping...of the horses that did NOT win last time out, it looks like the 10 will win this.. or 4 should do...the 11 looks very interesting in this race and need evaluation... ...'i' have decided to go with 2-6-10 ...the 1 & 4 will be just behind...the 10 is the one ...the odds 'i' will watch... |
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Post by frangooch on Apr 4, 2019 15:32:36 GMT -5
What's wrong with Tax? Good numbers and two good races over the track, including a stakes win. Is it his background as a claimer that accounts for the odds? He'll get a good trip. Plus, it's the season....
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Post by DoctorDisaster on Apr 4, 2019 16:23:00 GMT -5
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Post by HR Block on Apr 4, 2019 19:23:33 GMT -5
That story is 3 years old and the tax return is 5 years old. And Bernie is too old.
What will we see first?
99-1 Health Care Plan
50-1 Gov't Shutdown
25-1 Closing Mexican Border
10-1 NO POLITICS 's Tax Returns
3-1 Tacitus Victory
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Post by tc on Apr 4, 2019 20:29:00 GMT -5
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Post by ozzy on Apr 5, 2019 7:48:10 GMT -5
Agree this one is likely a repeat of the Tampa Bay Derby but think Outshine gets the nod here. Also agree Hoffa’s Union is interesting to use given the apparent confidence of the conections taking a shot here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 10:24:24 GMT -5
...lol.....he should drop out and will be a scratch for sure...his owners have no real hope of winning but because of his past earning power for them they will enter him but really no one should bet on him....lol...a sucker bet except on how many voters actually bet on him....lol... |
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Post by Badactor on Apr 5, 2019 11:43:15 GMT -5
Who is the "Long Shot with a shot?"
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Post by maumeeriverangler on Apr 5, 2019 14:30:19 GMT -5
Got to go with- Tax-he's done nothing wrong & has been working good.
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Post by frangooch on Apr 5, 2019 15:39:00 GMT -5
How about Not That Brady at 20/1? Toss last and he's right there with Tax. On the bottom is more likely, but on the ticket.
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Post by orioleboy on Apr 5, 2019 21:17:19 GMT -5
Tacitus is my Derby horse until proven otherwise. Final Jeopardy also looks live in here at a price.
Steve
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Post by bobtailnag on Apr 5, 2019 22:16:18 GMT -5
HEY, stop that stuff and talk horse racing!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2019 2:02:06 GMT -5
HEY, stop that stuff and talk horse racing! Lol.....the last time a person ended up ahead in the green ,in the betting venue, that did not own a race horse ,was when we played the game of ," pin the tail on the donkey, " lol...as kids.... |
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Post by orioleboy on Apr 6, 2019 18:44:44 GMT -5
Well it hasn’t been proven otherwise. Tacitus is still my Derby horse.
Steve
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Post by Replay on Apr 6, 2019 20:39:13 GMT -5
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Post by big18741 on Apr 7, 2019 8:17:25 GMT -5
Tax is sneaky coming out of the Wood as a board hitting type in the Derby.
He has tactical speed,might not have been 100% coming off a two month gap and showed a nice turn move yesterday.
Certainly bred for 10 furlongs top and bottom.
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Post by frangooch on Apr 7, 2019 12:45:16 GMT -5
That wasn't an easy trip for Tacitus, making the win more impressive.
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Post by bobtailnag on Apr 7, 2019 13:10:09 GMT -5
He was my pick yesterday and I was not disappointed with his race at all. I think he would have won if Junior would have waited another 16th before making his move. Maybe they learned something yesterday. Danny Gargan usually has his horses ready to go off short layoffs and wins at about a 25% rate with those. I've never thought of Arch as being a possible sire of a derby winner showing only 7 life time races with the biggest win being the Louisiana Derby but finishing last in the BC Classic. However, as Big as noted, Tax is bred for the distance on both sides, and as stated, I like the horse. I will be playing the Oaks-Derby double and he will be on the ticket if he's in the gate. While his current rider, Junior Alvarado, has won 20% of his rides this year and is very capable, I wouldn't mind seeing a proven derby rider on top. Junior's only Derby ride was Mohaymen in the 2016 Derby finishing 4th.
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Post by big18741 on Apr 8, 2019 7:47:51 GMT -5
Bobtail
Arch won his La Super Derby at 10 furlongs and also sired Blame a BC Classic winner so he's capable on paper as a Derby sire.
Tacitus was the better horse on Saturday.I think even if Junior waited it wouldn't have made a difference in the result.
It's possible Tax wasn't at peak off the 9 week layoff.If that's the case Gargan really threaded the needle having to finish 1-2 without gutting the horse.
Looking at the 15 or so horses that are a lock on points Tax is a horse I won't be tossing from the underneath stuff.For one there is not a lot of pace type horses already in so his style would have him in the first half of the field.Also he's at least competitive on #'s.
Think he'd have to improve though to be a win contender.
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