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Jun 30, 2020 9:51:10 GMT -5
Post by 1hooper on Jun 30, 2020 9:51:10 GMT -5
How are the major sports leagues and NCAA going to pull off a start up during a pandemic? Got my doubts since I live in the NYC-Boston corridor. Hoping for the best.
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Jun 30, 2020 12:56:05 GMT -5
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Post by gam on Jun 30, 2020 12:56:05 GMT -5
It’ll be interesting to see what comes with respect to college sports and I’d guess it won’t happen or will be a topsy turvy affair. Pro sports may well work as long as governments don’t interfere.
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Jun 30, 2020 13:55:22 GMT -5
Post by 1hooper on Jun 30, 2020 13:55:22 GMT -5
What if the college and pro teams in my area don't allow fans but the other division teams do? Unfair? Can you imagine Mahomes or Brady or whoever showing up to a playoff game with a fever of 100.5? Do you sit the head coach if he has a fever? Imagine the guy in charge of that decision.
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Jun 30, 2020 14:25:46 GMT -5
Post by 1hooper on Jun 30, 2020 14:25:46 GMT -5
The start?
Dear Morehouse Community, I write to inform you that due to the COVID-19 virus, Morehouse College will not participate in intercollegiate athletic competition sponsored by the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) and the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (SIAC) this upcoming Fall. This will affect our cross country and football sponsored athletic teams. I want all of our scholar-athletes, parents, and alumni to know that the College will honor all athletic scholarship awards. Like all of the decisions we've made related to COVID-19, this was a difficult one but was made with the health and well-being of our students and community in mind. It follows my intention to maintain a safe campus in hopes that our students will be able to return in August. Our Maroon Tiger teams travel to other NCAA institutions and cannot compete without breaking from social distancing guidelines still maintained by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Sporting events also invite individuals to our campus who will not be subject to the testing and monitoring that we plan to implement for our students, faculty, and staff. I know this news will be most disappointing to our scholar-athletes, especially our seniors. I can only ask for your understanding and respect for the fact that the College is prioritizing your health and safety ahead of all else.
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Jun 30, 2020 14:35:15 GMT -5
Post by 1hooper on Jun 30, 2020 14:35:15 GMT -5
Just saw this and multiple sites are confirming. Sh!tty news. Have a AAA team in the city next door.
What was long expected will be made official today: There will be no Minor League Baseball in 2020. According to multiple sources, Minor League Baseball is expected to officially announce this afternoon that the season has been shelved because Major League Baseball has failed to provide players. Teams have been informed that they can make their own announcements later this afternoon after MiLB’s announcement. The Athletic reported on Monday that an announcement was expected to be made on Tuesday.
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Jun 30, 2020 18:22:57 GMT -5
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Post by gam on Jun 30, 2020 18:22:57 GMT -5
What if the college and pro teams in my area don't allow fans but the other division teams do? Unfair? Can you imagine Mahomes or Brady or whoever showing up to a playoff game with a fever of 100.5? Do you sit the head coach if he has a fever? Imagine the guy in charge of that decision. Allowing fans or not won’t necessarily impact the decision to play among the higher levels of NCAA, maybe lower levels. Some ADs have said they won’t play unless fans are permitted. But if national tv deals are implicated, they’ll likely play without fans despite statements to the contrary. You may see truncated seasons and no clear conference champs. You may see partial schedules completed. It really could be a do the best they can situation. Later add: guess I didn’t read closely and missed your point. Yep, you could have situations where some teams have some fans in attendance while others don’t. They’re just going to do the best they can through this thing. Just playing games will have to be a “win” for the foreseeable future.
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Jun 30, 2020 22:57:16 GMT -5
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Post by gam on Jun 30, 2020 22:57:16 GMT -5
Apparently there are some sentiments toward delaying football season til spring, at least on a high school and possibly college level. Just seeing this today. We’ll see if that idea gains momentum over the next month.
Add: reading that NCAA considering starting the college b-ball season later and omitting the out of conference schedule.
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Jul 6, 2020 8:55:16 GMT -5
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Post by gam on Jul 6, 2020 8:55:16 GMT -5
Ivy League may move within a week to move all fall sports to spring. Watch this closely. If they defer to spring it may be a precursor to all Div 1 deferring.
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Jul 6, 2020 9:21:38 GMT -5
Post by spanky on Jul 6, 2020 9:21:38 GMT -5
Anyone know how this sports catastrophe is hitting Vegas? I would think it is smacking the sports books pretty hard...
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Jul 6, 2020 9:41:30 GMT -5
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Jul 6, 2020 10:09:31 GMT -5
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Jul 6, 2020 15:53:27 GMT -5
Post by shoes on Jul 6, 2020 15:53:27 GMT -5
Ivy League may move within a week to move all fall sports to spring. Watch this closely. If they defer to spring it may be a precursor to all Div 1 deferring. If they play say football in the Spring (a full season?), when would it end? Then you'd start another full season just a few months later? I could see it maybe for other sports but that would seem too close together for football.
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Jul 6, 2020 16:13:07 GMT -5
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Post by gam on Jul 6, 2020 16:13:07 GMT -5
I don’t know, but why not. Some players will be leaving and others arriving. Skip spring practice and next season could start with August camps. Right now, if NBA and NHL successfully complete their seasons, they’ll be delaying the start of the 20-21 season. Maybe for fall of 21 you scrap or cut down out-of-conference and begin end of September. Everything is kind of ad hoc right now. Programs will be devastated if they lose the season altogether. Better to play 21 on a shortened timetable than losing a year. My guess is if football gets pushed to spring the season will be shortened by a few games, as well.
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Jul 6, 2020 17:54:44 GMT -5
Post by shoes on Jul 6, 2020 17:54:44 GMT -5
Fair points.
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Jul 7, 2020 10:11:52 GMT -5
Post by 1hooper on Jul 7, 2020 10:11:52 GMT -5
On Sunday, the Sacramento Kings became the seventh team to shut down its practice facility ahead of the Orlando restart, joining the Bucks, Clippers, Heat, Nuggets, Nets, and Suns. Like the others, Sacramento received a positive coronavirus test “within the team’s traveling party,” causing it to close just days before the teams are expected to report to Disney.
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Jul 8, 2020 9:56:59 GMT -5
Post by spanky on Jul 8, 2020 9:56:59 GMT -5
I have not seen my bookie in awhile with the lack of action but the Charity Gof Classic may solve that after Sunday if I hit most of these plays...
WagerType: Date: Team: BuyPoints / Pitcher: Amount: Straight Jul 09 MU [7148] R FOWLER (RND 1) -110 (P REED (RND 1) vrs R FOWLER (RND 1)) 0 Straight Jul 09 MU [7150] I POULTER (RND 1) -115 (M HOMA (RND 1) vrs I POULTER (RND 1)) 0 Straight Jul 09 MU [7006] I. POULTER -110 (R. SABBATINI vrs I. POULTER) 0 Straight Jul 09 MU [7015] R. PALMER -135 (R. PALMER vrs M. WALLACE) 0 Straight Jul 09 MU [7028] B. WATSON -115 (S SCHEFFLER vrs B. WATSON) 0 Straight Jul 09 MU [7034] J. DAY -115 (M WOLFF vrs J. DAY) 0 Straight Jul 09 MU [7042] M. KUCHAR EV (P. REED vrs M. KUCHAR) 0 Straight Jul 09 MU [7063] J. THOMAS -125 (J. THOMAS vrs H. MATSUYAMA) 0 Straight Jul 09 MU [7065] J. THOMAS -110 (J. THOMAS vrs J. RAHM) 0 Straight Jul 09 MU [7071] J. DAY EV (J. DAY vrs B. WATSON)
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Jul 8, 2020 21:51:51 GMT -5
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Post by spanky on Jul 9, 2020 7:33:28 GMT -5
No IVY LEAGUE Sports? OMG, Say it ain't so Hoop!....
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Jul 9, 2020 7:50:16 GMT -5
Post by 1hooper on Jul 9, 2020 7:50:16 GMT -5
1. Student 2. Athlete
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Jul 9, 2020 8:07:23 GMT -5
Post by spanky on Jul 9, 2020 8:07:23 GMT -5
Hey, don't get me wrong Hoopster...the great Calvin Hill played at Yale! Best ever Ivy League football player?
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Jul 9, 2020 16:07:01 GMT -5
Post by 1hooper on Jul 9, 2020 16:07:01 GMT -5
It is sad that what we fear for fall sports is getting closer.
The Big Ten on Thursday announced it will be going to a conference-only season for all fall sports, including football, amid "unprecedented times" during the coronavirus pandemic. "We are facing uncertain and unprecedented times, and the health, safety and wellness of our student-athletes, coaches, game officials, and others associated with our sports programs and campuses remain our number one priority," the Big Ten said in a statement.
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Jul 9, 2020 17:08:10 GMT -5
Post by gam on Jul 9, 2020 17:08:10 GMT -5
ACC also eliminating out-of-conference. I don't like the odds of a fall season being played, but time will tell.
Interesting possibility/question, if NCAA pushes football back to Spring but somehow NFL can persevere with a Fall season, will they shift some games to Saturdays? There will be a major void, even if baseball and possibly BBall and hockey is being played.
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Post by 1hooper on Jul 10, 2020 7:28:19 GMT -5
The Southeastern Conference has summoned all 14 athletic directors to league offices in Birmingham, Ala., next Monday for an in-person meeting to discuss fall sports scheduling, multiple sources told Sports Illustrated. It is believed to be the first in-person gathering of representatives from the whole conference since the COVID-19 outbreak shut down the SEC men’s basketball tournament March 12.
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Post by gam on Jul 10, 2020 8:50:38 GMT -5
I said that ACC was also eliminating OOC games and I swear I thought I heard that on the local sports talk radio, but nothing official yet. Seems likely that ACC will follow the B1G in this regard, though.
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Jul 24, 2020 9:21:00 GMT -5
Post by gam on Jul 24, 2020 9:21:00 GMT -5
The Korean Baseball Organization is set to permit limited fans soon, (maybe this weekend?). Korea has not suffered the pandemic nearly as bad as the US, but it is a glimmer of hope.
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Aug 9, 2020 19:16:25 GMT -5
Post by 1hooper on Aug 9, 2020 19:16:25 GMT -5
Plenty of rumors about the NCAA canceling fall sports. Could be official this week.
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Aug 10, 2020 10:50:17 GMT -5
Post by Badactor on Aug 10, 2020 10:50:17 GMT -5
BIG 10 season cancelled.
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Post by 1hooper on Aug 12, 2020 12:00:18 GMT -5
It's always about the money isn't it.
In an email to Sports Illustrated, prominent college sports attorney Tom Mars offered this chilling view of what the Big 12, ACC and SEC could be getting into: “Whatever conference(s) decides to play football this fall will be taking a ridiculously high risk they may soon regret. I know and have talked with some of the best plaintiff’s lawyers in the country this week, and they’re praying the SEC, Big 12 and/or the ACC are greedy enough to stay the course. If things go sideways, the plaintiff’s Bar will immediately get their hands on the internal financial analyses of the schools (a FOIA layup), get the conference financials through the discovery process, and then just stand in front of the jurors and point to the conferences that decided not to risk the health of their student-athletes. Good Lord, I’d hate to be the lawyers defending those cases.” And the attorneys lining up to represent plaintiffs? “These are lawyers who’ve already slain bigger dragons than the SEC, and they can afford to finance the most expensive litigation on the planet. As a coalition, they’d be the legal equivalent of the Death Star.”
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Post by shoes on Aug 12, 2020 14:12:05 GMT -5
The legal thing is a bit murky. It would be very difficult to prove that a covid infection resulted from the playing of a football game. Not that it could but that any specific infection did. You would have to rule out other probable sources. Ironically the proof would become easier for teams in the "bubble" situation with few other contacts. In addition many states have a qualified immunity statute which could apply to this situation, or it may fall within an exception to the immunity enjoyed by public entities (in this case it probably would fall within an exception). That said the suits would still be filed and the cost of defending them would be huge, whether they could be ultimately proven or not. And even if a school won, let's say 8 of the 10 suits, the two they lost could have huge damages.
The other interesting question is what about insurance?. Would insurers be bearing the costs, and what are the limits of the insuranceThe schools and the conferences do carry liability insurance, but how much and would these suits be covered? I don't off hand know why they wouldn't but without seeing the policies, one can't be sure. In fact though I haven't heard this mentioned I would be willing to bet the schools and conferences had discussions with their insurers before reaching a decision.
Sorry for the dissertation.
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