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Post by frangooch on Jul 4, 2019 14:20:30 GMT -5
From the Oxford English Dictionary: Fascism: an extreme RIGHT WING political system or attitude which is in favour of strong central government and which does not allow any opposition. See related entries: Political views and systems. (Caps are mine).
Obama "far worse results"? Hmmm, inherited the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, and an economy losing 700,000 jobs per month. Handed Little Hitler a rising economy, adding more jobs in his last two years than Little Hitler did in his first two. There's a lot more, but I'll leave it at that. How is life on Planet Fox?
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Post by frangooch on Jul 4, 2019 14:36:30 GMT -5
p.s. Antifa are buttheads who do the left a lot more harm than good, imo. However, the writer who was attacked, Andy Ngo, was not "beaten into a coma". He was bruised and scratched, and walked away from the incident on his own. Fake news? And accounts of the event are readily available.....
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Post by spiderjohn on Jul 4, 2019 21:16:34 GMT -5
Ok gooch--I re-watched the video from Portland, and maybe the attack wasn't as severe, though the reports say that the man was hospitalized for bleeding on the brain. This level of activism from any angle is unacceptable.
Right wing--left wing--simply created terminology. The actions speak for themselves. Seems the activists demonstrate your "right wing" ideology.
Bush was an economic disaster---Obama honestly did next to nothing to improve that. We disagree. There are economic trends that could support both positions. Although it is very early on, the Dem meltdown panic may well be a good thing for them to weed out the empty fakers and bring on a dose of both practicality and reality. ANTIFA are more than buttheads--they fit your definition of fascism perfectly.
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Post by spanky on Jul 5, 2019 6:41:28 GMT -5
Watch out guys, you're close to having an actual conversation without antagonizing each other.I find that entertaining! As far as comparing NO POLITICS and Obama...NO POLITICS is not mentally all there imp. He's a threat to our national security for sure. NO POLITICS , Putin and Rocket Man should scare every person in the USA. Now NO POLITICS wants to invite Jung to the White House. Why?
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Post by spiderjohn on Jul 5, 2019 9:41:13 GMT -5
it is what it is, spanky--very fluid
I applaud the Congressman for his reasoning behind leaving the republican party. Hopefully others from both "sides" and in the Senate will follow suit. This two-party charade is obviously not working well any more.
Think about Independence day--the reason that it happened--freedom from outside control. Don't make every other day become dependence day like when the "debaters" raised their hands in unison.
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Post by spiderjohn on Jul 5, 2019 9:42:34 GMT -5
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Post by eye123 on Jul 5, 2019 11:44:08 GMT -5
Spider, I find it amazing you cannot say one anti conservative thing without equivocating. Truly amazing !
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Post by frangooch on Jul 5, 2019 17:41:05 GMT -5
Honestly--losing 700,000 jobs a month, collapse of the housing market, stock market at 7000, auto industry on verge of bankruptcy, etc., etc., converted to a robust jobs market, rising economy and stock market, auto industry rescued, housing market off the charts, stock market around 19000, thousand of clean energy jobs, all while facing a gridlock teabag Congress, equates to "next to nothing" from Obama? ?? To quote Tome Wolfe, "That's real good thinkin' there, Cool Breeze".
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Post by frangooch on Jul 5, 2019 17:41:51 GMT -5
p.s. Commenting on the debates without watching them? hmmmmmm
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Post by spiderjohn on Jul 6, 2019 8:15:20 GMT -5
come on--I watched segments of the nights live, then have suffered through the "highlights and key moments" ever since. I don't know anyone that honestly enjoyed watching them in entirety. What more do I need to know about Liz, Bernie and Joe? Most of the ridiculous rest of them weren't worth the effort. Cory and Kamala are scripted posers trying to emulate Obama. The rest honestly don't matter. This group makes NO POLITICS seem realistic and moderate, and the few unknown others that made sense to me--I had never heard of prior. It should get better--maybe not.
As for gooch(again--can't post without him!), you are obviously confused with Obama stats. Economy rarely touched 1%, jobs #s were fed and phony from his spin machine. Clean energy jobs were tax-funded and existed only on paper--most of those sham companies were bankrupt and gone by the time he left office. Gridlock Congress sound familiar? Stinks both ways, doesn't it? Market is now 27000--unemployment sits @ 3.7% with wages up--economy growing @ steady 3-4%--trade meetings with NK and China(Obamama couldn't talk with them)--the Iran bribe was shut down(hopefully a good thing)--cities and states outside of hard leftists are showing surpluses(that alone should be a strong clue).
NO POLITICS is an ass, but the results of his admin have worked for most straight working people. Your manufactured hatred and crises are laughable outside of your Nazi-like approach to disagreement and differences. You honestly don't have much to stand on imo.
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Post by frangooch on Jul 6, 2019 12:46:06 GMT -5
More long winded , fact-free, posting, courtesy of the Fox News regurge. Faux Obama jobs? NO POLITICS is still counting them in his totals so....what? Substantiate your claim or go sit in the corner. Clean energy jobs are real and you have no basis for you claim, as usual. And it was just a cakewalk to turn around the recession, right? And the auto industry is a mirage, right? And the housing market is fake, right? And the economy that fatso inherited is the same one that Obama did, right? I never said he drove it down, I said he was gravy training on Obama, which is true. And you were the one who said "only a couch potato" would watch the debates. And your comments about comments are mere screed--"what more do I need to know?"--perfectly stated by the ultimate know-it-all. Sigh....
Results have not worked for "most" straight working people, sorry. Unemployment is roughly the same as Cheeto inherited. Wages of working people are stagnant as Drumpf's pals rake it in.
You continually misuse the words facism and Nazi. Please tell me which of my comments above equates to the latter. Then tell me which side supports the American Nazis, Proud Boys, KKK, etc. This should be easy, spider. Even for you.
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Post by eye123 on Jul 6, 2019 13:25:45 GMT -5
"NO POLITICS is an ass, but" There you go again Spider. It's not in you to not defend the "ass".
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Post by mattcoll on Jul 7, 2019 8:52:05 GMT -5
Eye,
I know a lot of people who think NO POLITICS is repulsive on a personal level but still voted for him and/or defend some of his positions economically or internationally. It has never struck me as "amazing" that people could have this personal/political separation for NO POLITICS , or any other politician for that matter. I feel like I need to do what you call "equivocating" for every candidate in every party at the national level. I'm honestly much, much more disturbed by the people with 100% devotion than the equivocators.
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