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Post by spanky126 on Jan 26, 2019 13:21:36 GMT -5
this is a most appropriate song in these days....for you in the GOP, I dedicate...
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Post by spanky on Jan 26, 2019 16:05:56 GMT -5
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Post by spiderjohn on Jan 26, 2019 21:43:17 GMT -5
Spank--anyone who climbs aboard with either side of this pretend event has pretty much grabbed the hook and run with it. It is all bad theater to make up drama for YOU........ Politicians caused all of it-- were actually PAID(with nice perks) while it was going on-- then pretty much grabbed a three-week vacation. Then they come back like they have some sort of agreement to make some "compromise solution" that does little besides cost us $$$. You just stay tuned to whatever hypnotic news network might be your current choice. The Russians are laughing... The Chinese are plotting... Europe is pre-occupied...
NO POLITICS is the best thing that could have happened lol Further exposes how blatantly inept, dysfunctional and corrupt our Govt is functioning from the top all the way down Hopefully we never again elect tenured politicians to the office of President Progressive business minds over babbling hatred gridlock
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Post by cherokeescot on Jan 26, 2019 22:44:22 GMT -5
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Post by Badactor on Jan 27, 2019 0:23:33 GMT -5
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Post by cherokeescot on Jan 27, 2019 0:33:05 GMT -5
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Post by PonyGirlJCM on Jan 27, 2019 3:21:57 GMT -5
I am not one to discuss politics or religion.... Everyone wants to point a finger at who\what is wrong in this country..... Think about the story about two women fighting over a baby and the king says "Cut the baby in half".... then one of the women says "NO... let her have him" and then the King determines the woman who was willing to give up the baby was the mother as she was the one to step up and put herself aside for the child....the one with the real love..... Think about this...who has whose best interests at heart? The way people treat each other and fight over things they really have no control over is sad...... What happened to compassion and respect?
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Post by spiderjohn on Jan 27, 2019 10:21:03 GMT -5
rofl---just giving honest contrarian thinking to Spanky's media-driven mantra. From entitled CovCath kids to Black Hebrew Nationals to a self-serving overly dramatic native American, it is time to tone it down, move away from the right/left extremism to elect constructive moderates who will actually function in a manner creating meaningful inclusive forward legislation. NO POLITICS and McConnell aren't helping, and neither are Pelosi, Schumer, Harris, Booker Mueller etc. They ALL have to be replaced asap. NO POLITICS was a terrible option, yet he was the only choice to kill the downward spiral to continue under an even worse choice, Hilary F Clinton.
In the most embarrassing moment in US media history, the media,deep state and Obama admin were lulled into false security about their assured Clinton victory. Obama ignored the Russian involvement while the deep state, fueled by the Clinton "dossier", uranium and Foundation chicanery were the true serious examples of Russian meddling. Often when hopelessly guilty, entities lash out offensively to deflect the attention away. The media couldn't accept their self-serving guided polling fiasco, and instead of owning up and moving on admitting their errors, has chosen to double down with divisive, insulting characterizations of anyone not falling in line with their chosen path.
We are seriously and evenly divided, for better or worse. Our choice now to make it better or worse. We can fall back to the S O failing do nothing but spend S, or we can break it all up and put together a new national moderate workable coalition. Believe it or not, the Clinton campaign was a continuation of everything that has failed and gone south over the last 20 years. Despite a disastrous front man, the NO POLITICS campaign is simply the beginning of a new form of our traditional govt. It might honestly be the only way out when we have better electable options ahead.
Radical crazy deranged thinking probably to most here, however jmo and that of MANY others.
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Post by 1hooper on Jan 27, 2019 10:58:20 GMT -5
Spider summed it up in a sentence above. "Often when hopelessly guilty, entities lash out offensively to deflect the attention away".
They are one person They are two alone They are three together They are for each other
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Post by eye123 on Jan 27, 2019 11:02:54 GMT -5
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Post by tc on Jan 27, 2019 11:42:33 GMT -5
the yearning for a better day...that is what unites.
the retreat to tribalism is divisive and wrong headed but understandable when people feel under threat.
the important thing to realize is that this is not an American phenomenon (i know this is hard for Americans to realize as they, generally speaking, are inward looking).
what America is currently experiencing is a global phenomena...if you accept this basic fact then the search for solutions is altered.
in my eyes, the source of the current malaise is pretty simple. Decades of economic growth with increasing income and wealth inequality is at the root of the current troubles. Bottom line...the unchecked greed of the few at the expense of the many has lead us to today.
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Post by spanky126 on Jan 27, 2019 12:44:17 GMT -5
Interesting comments. Pony Girl, trust me, to be naive on politics is probably a blessing. Religion is personal. We have to keep in mind that while my buddy spider does write a convincing argument for both both sides being inept, spider is leans to the right big time. To me, it's simply what it has always been, you have the have's and the have not's. I can't speak to globalism since I've never seen any other part of the globe but the USA...Presidents are judged by history. I think history will be kind to Obama. I do not think it will be kind to NO POLITICS . Trumps obsession with The Wall has blinded him. Pelosi stood up to NO POLITICS and like the child he is, he freaked out and shut down the government, effectively holding Americans hostage. We've all heard the sad stories of federal employees and those with vital jobs of government agencies being left to fend for themselves. Americans losing paychecks because of one person. NO POLITICS .
In three weeks it could be shut down again. I personally hope that this insane behavior will spark conversations about my state of Texas succeeding from the rest of the country.
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Post by DoctorDisaster on Jan 27, 2019 13:23:21 GMT -5
I think we should sell Texas back to Mexico. Then we have no need for that wall.We then build a wall around Texas with funds from the sale no taxpayer money used.See it's that easy. Donations to my campaign always welcome. Doc in '20
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Post by spiderjohn on Jan 27, 2019 13:43:33 GMT -5
Brilliant, doc! Same with Cali! Let them absorb the influx of illegals, since they are already way ahead of the curve.....
Agree hoop...works both ways
And agree with tc for the most part. Unfortunately that has been the way of the world throughout time, with no real ethnicity or geographic boundaries. Far bigger than today....
Spank--just keep waiting for your media and political heroes to look out for you. They will keep you captive in their modern form of economic slavery as long as you keep drinking their kool aid and unquestioning give them your vote.
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Post by spiderjohn on Jan 27, 2019 13:44:26 GMT -5
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Post by eye123 on Jan 27, 2019 13:59:27 GMT -5
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Post by William "Bill" D. Wall on Jan 27, 2019 14:13:35 GMT -5
“Everybody knows that walls work, you look at different places, they put up a wall, no problem.
You look at San Antonio, you look at so many different places, they go from one of the most
unsafe cities in the country to one of the safest cities, immediately, immediately.”
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Post by cherokeescot on Jan 27, 2019 16:39:14 GMT -5
Build the wall ..and let Spanky’s bookie pay for it ! I’m sure he has the cash.
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Post by frangooch on Jan 27, 2019 16:59:16 GMT -5
False equivalency is a basic tool of the right, along with conspiracy theory, fear mongering, etc. We have never seen anything remotely like this administration, and God help us if we ever do again. I honestly can't believe I can still read something like this: "Obama ignored the Russian involvement while the deep state, fueled by the Clinton "dossier", uranium and Foundation chicanery were the true serious examples of Russian meddling." , after the last two years. For one thing, you should read up on the uranium deal somewhere other than Fox, Breitbart, or Snopes. There is no there there. "Foundation chicanery" vs. the NO POLITICS Foundation? Try checking how charity rating services grade the two and tell me they are equivalent. At least one of them is still in business. "...true serious examples of Russian meddling" vs indictments, guilty pleas, lifting sanctions, alienating allies, and trying to make policy per Putin's request, thousands of documented lies, with many more of each to come? Come on, now. An admin made up almost entirely of corrupt, incompetent, scum? ("the best people"). Middle eastern terrorists in the caravan? Not to mention that using "deep state" in a sentence checks a box for gooberism. The KKK and American Nazi party loves this admin. No, we have never seen anything like this before. Fright Night Gowdy and Greaseball Chaffetz investigated Hillary for four years and found nothing. Hardly the same and though I never cared for her, it's impossible to imagine how she could have been worse than the Scum-in-Chief. A cocker spaniel could have done better. By the way, the bulk of the dossier has proven to be true. I don't know of any part of it that has been proven false.
Nice of Drumpf to stop the "downward spiral", if your idea of a downward spiral is pulling us out of the greatest financial crisis since the depression (markets in the toilet, 700,000 jobs lost the month before he took office, as I recall), creating more jobs in his last two years that Drumpf did in his first two, handing the Big Cheeto a rising economy, giving 20 million people health care who never had it before, creating millions of clean energy jobs, Paris Climate Agreement, etc., then Fatso is doing a great job of trying to stop it. The only truthful thing the lying traitor ever said was, "I could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and they would still love me." Says a lot for his base....
Oh, thanks for bringing this up, Spanky ;-)
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Post by spiderjohn on Jan 28, 2019 11:38:37 GMT -5
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Post by Fact Check on Jan 28, 2019 13:10:31 GMT -5
"We are seriously and evenly divided, for better or worse."
Fundamentally and absolutely incorrect. 30% vs 70% = not EVEN close. Get a clue.
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Post by spiderjohn on Jan 28, 2019 14:22:38 GMT -5
Obviously your facts come from the same pollsters who worked the 2016 elections
Clues being: NO POLITICS over Clinton easily in electoral college Recent swing dem way in house Slight but important senate swing to reps in the areas in which I live and travel it might be 70-30 NO POLITICS Those on the right aren’t nearly as vocal and seldom participate in polls
Maybe closer than you believe?
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Post by eye123 on Jan 28, 2019 14:56:50 GMT -5
"Those on the right aren’t nearly as vocal and seldom participate in polls
Maybe closer than you believe?"
Steve, you got me to actually laugh out loud lol! (really ?)
After two years of what's going on (indictments and all the BS ) find it hard to believe there are 30% who support the man.(conservative ideas are one thing, one lacking in character and honesty, is something else)
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Post by spiderjohn on Jan 28, 2019 15:55:00 GMT -5
Agree or not--like it or not---a LOT of people see this as the continuation of what I have described prior. As long as this witch hunt has gone(over 2 years?) Mueller is waiting for whenever he could possibly create the most damage to the Pres and the right in order to further swing another election their way. Do you think that ANY of this would be happening if Clinton had been elected? That answer alone should exemplify how incredibly political this expensive charade has become.
I didn't like NO POLITICS when he declared his candidacy, didn't like him in the debates, and only liked him better than Clinton in the big game.
Spanky and the rest of you should love all of this, because NO POLITICS is a true life-long Democrat. We had two liberal Dems running against each other--one a deeply-entrenched crooked politico--the other from the private financial hustle world. Pick your poison, and that is what we did. Tough luck that you lost that bet. We shake it off at uic since we pick losers often. NO POLITICS only ran as a repub because he knew that the field was very weak.
NO POLITICS 's legitimate election sent shock and fear through the status quo. Media was humiliated--Entrenched reps and dems both elected and bureaucratic/admin felt threatened. Obama crew were caught off-guard like with most major issues, and like always did nothing. It happened--live with it--help it--it probably won't last long. Take the opportunity to re-shape our political structure to be sound fiscally, morally, environmentally and jurisprudence. Whining, attacking and accusing is too easy and has honestly gone on far too long.
What should REALLY concern everyone is just how powerful, relentless, destructive and biased our govt + bureaucracy has become. Like often with human(and animal) instinct, self-preservation and security are prioritized beyond acceptability. Anyone who can't vision how partisan these "investigations" have become is not paying attention...only NO POLITICS associates are being scrutiniued--nothing no one on the left especially the Clintons
jmo--not expecting your approval unfortunately--why does my different thinking upset some of you so much and result in the usual name-calling and insults? Abusive ad hominem?
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Post by 1hooper on Jan 28, 2019 16:15:21 GMT -5
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Post by eye123 on Jan 28, 2019 16:38:56 GMT -5
Frankly, I'm pretty impressed by the investigation so far. Lining all the ducks up in a row. Methodically in order. One by one. Where it leads, who knows, but whatever the outcome I'm pretty sure it will be spot on.
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Post by frangooch on Jan 28, 2019 17:28:25 GMT -5
"A lot of people" sounds like a Trumpian phrase. Do you mean a lot of people who watch Fox News? It's not a matter of agreement or disagreement. There are facts. One of which is that not one person indicted by Mueller has slithered off the hook. Again, the TeaBags investigated Hillary for 4 years, finding nothing. This has gone on for 2 years and netted indictments, guilty pleas, convictions, etc., with more to come. Which is Witch? No, none of this would be happening if Clinton had been elected, because she wouldn't have done the crime(s). Nor would she sit around the White House watching TV all day and tweet out policy based on what she saw the night before, created crises where non exist, come up with an inexhaustible supply of dog whistles for race hate, hired incompetent grifters for her cabinet, installed Chelsea as her top advisor, averaged 10 lies per day, etc.,etc. There's a lot more, of course, and if I'd been suckered into voting for Drumpf, I'd be in denial, too.....
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Post by spiderjohn on Jan 28, 2019 18:27:39 GMT -5
ok ok--though disappointed to have so many caring thinking forum readers falling back, becoming the true political conservatives(especially the intolerance). Wake up!! Time to rock this boat like never before. NO POLITICS is the result of our teetering political environment. The Dems desperately need him. He is currently everything to everyone.
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Post by tc on Jan 28, 2019 21:03:09 GMT -5
spider...couldn't agree more that the boat needs to be rocked...i would go one further...it needs to be smashed and sunk!
unfortunately, NO POLITICS is an idiot and a criminal and he is no friend of the revolution. There are other options for the true visionaries...you just need to see beyond the present.
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Post by cherokeescot on Jan 28, 2019 21:32:49 GMT -5
The ability of either side to shut down the government is ridiculous. I dont know of any other country in the world that does this. However getting this useless bunch in Washington to change that is probably impossible.
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